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	<title>Comments on: A short interview with First Second&#8217;s Mark Siegel</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Schweizer</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Schweizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Second seems to be stepping up it&#039;s game with each publication, so I&#039;m glad to hear that everything&#039;s in good shape.  I&#039;ve been lauding a few of their titles, but I can&#039;t stop singing the praises of Three Shadows, which is one of the most beautiful comics ever made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Second seems to be stepping up it&#8217;s game with each publication, so I&#8217;m glad to hear that everything&#8217;s in good shape.  I&#8217;ve been lauding a few of their titles, but I can&#8217;t stop singing the praises of Three Shadows, which is one of the most beautiful comics ever made.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A. Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just picked up both Three Shadows and Alan&#039;s War. Both are clearly for adults and are also so good that they should make anyone thinking of creating graphic novels step up their game. I can&#039;t recommend either book enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just picked up both Three Shadows and Alan&#8217;s War. Both are clearly for adults and are also so good that they should make anyone thinking of creating graphic novels step up their game. I can&#8217;t recommend either book enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tingley - Comics in the Classroom</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tingley - Comics in the Classroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific article.  Being a teacher and an all-ages comic site guy (comicsintheclassroom.net) I really like that a lot of :01&#039;s catelogue is geared for younger readers, but I have read and enjoyed many of their older titles as well.  Their terrific Drawing Words and Writing Pictures comic making guide is really for Late teens/adults - a grown-up book (with some work though I am adapting it for use for my grades 3-5 comic club at school).

&quot;assuming that Eternal Smile and the manwha books have an all-ages appeal&quot; Just for accuracy, :01 puts Smile at a 14+ range.  So for YA, not All Ages.

No doubt that Librarians helped make comics more acceptable for teachers (Bone being a good example), but my local library has no idea what to do with the ones they have bought.  I have had a number of conversations and one full on meeting with the administration of my local about how they shelve and lable their titles.  My most recent example is seeing a Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane digest (marked by Marvel as being all ages) intentionally on the same shelf as Joe Matt&#039;s Spent (a book about a guy that masturbtes a lot).  I think this kind of thing could hurt the acceptance comics have gotten more recently.  Or, maybe I am nuts.

And just to be clear, I don&#039;t think that questionable books should be put behind the desk or anything, just shelved better.

Thanks for the rant space :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific article.  Being a teacher and an all-ages comic site guy (comicsintheclassroom.net) I really like that a lot of :01&#8242;s catelogue is geared for younger readers, but I have read and enjoyed many of their older titles as well.  Their terrific Drawing Words and Writing Pictures comic making guide is really for Late teens/adults &#8211; a grown-up book (with some work though I am adapting it for use for my grades 3-5 comic club at school).</p>
<p>&#8220;assuming that Eternal Smile and the manwha books have an all-ages appeal&#8221; Just for accuracy, :01 puts Smile at a 14+ range.  So for YA, not All Ages.</p>
<p>No doubt that Librarians helped make comics more acceptable for teachers (Bone being a good example), but my local library has no idea what to do with the ones they have bought.  I have had a number of conversations and one full on meeting with the administration of my local about how they shelve and lable their titles.  My most recent example is seeing a Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane digest (marked by Marvel as being all ages) intentionally on the same shelf as Joe Matt&#8217;s Spent (a book about a guy that masturbtes a lot).  I think this kind of thing could hurt the acceptance comics have gotten more recently.  Or, maybe I am nuts.</p>
<p>And just to be clear, I don&#8217;t think that questionable books should be put behind the desk or anything, just shelved better.</p>
<p>Thanks for the rant space <img src='http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Campbell</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing.
latest evidence:
http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6624192.html
COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM
&quot;Long ghettoized... in North America as puerile ...(comics)... are now being used in ...classrooms as everything from early developmental reading tools to serious literary texts.&quot;

(let&#039;s ignore curious use of the word &#039;puerile&#039;, whose primary meaning is &#039;of or pertaining to children&#039;)

&quot;Educator and comics specialist Peter Gutierrez attributes much of the growing interest from schools to the support and advocacy of librarians, many of whom responded to growing mainstream interest in graphic novels by developing significant library collections. “In the last two years, there’s been an explosion of interest, spurred by the popularity and obvious quality of graphic novels in libraries. It’s created more fertile ground for the kind of lateral movement of sequential art narratives into the classroom itself,” says Gutierrez.&quot;

I started observing the trend a couple of years back. In and of itself it is a good thing. But I found a problem with this general shift when a publisher recently (not First Second, and not a &#039;New York publisher (Tom Spurgeon tends to lump all of the book trade under NY, which I take to be a handy shorthand)) first rejected the book I was pitching (a fairly mature piece of work dealing with sexuality in a comical way) but then invited me to illustrate a &#039;young readers&#039; text. When the same thing happened a second time I felt that it must be more than a coincidence and have been noting events as they occur. The change of First Second&#039;s position in the structure of MacMillan Publishing, where it is now under the &quot;children&#039;s&#039; department is just one more piece in the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing.<br />
latest evidence:<br />
<a href="http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6624192.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6624192.html</a><br />
COMICS IN THE CLASSROOM<br />
&#8220;Long ghettoized&#8230; in North America as puerile &#8230;(comics)&#8230; are now being used in &#8230;classrooms as everything from early developmental reading tools to serious literary texts.&#8221;</p>
<p>(let&#8217;s ignore curious use of the word &#8216;puerile&#8217;, whose primary meaning is &#8216;of or pertaining to children&#8217;)</p>
<p>&#8220;Educator and comics specialist Peter Gutierrez attributes much of the growing interest from schools to the support and advocacy of librarians, many of whom responded to growing mainstream interest in graphic novels by developing significant library collections. “In the last two years, there’s been an explosion of interest, spurred by the popularity and obvious quality of graphic novels in libraries. It’s created more fertile ground for the kind of lateral movement of sequential art narratives into the classroom itself,” says Gutierrez.&#8221;</p>
<p>I started observing the trend a couple of years back. In and of itself it is a good thing. But I found a problem with this general shift when a publisher recently (not First Second, and not a &#8216;New York publisher (Tom Spurgeon tends to lump all of the book trade under NY, which I take to be a handy shorthand)) first rejected the book I was pitching (a fairly mature piece of work dealing with sexuality in a comical way) but then invited me to illustrate a &#8216;young readers&#8217; text. When the same thing happened a second time I felt that it must be more than a coincidence and have been noting events as they occur. The change of First Second&#8217;s position in the structure of MacMillan Publishing, where it is now under the &#8220;children&#8217;s&#8217; department is just one more piece in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is, you characterized my position correctly. 
It&#039;s just that It was never my intention to single out First Second. And a reader whose only connection with comics is through the comics specialty shops (and not libraries and the mainstream book trade) will probably not even have noticed the general shift, or may not notice it until it becomes more pronounced.

Anyway, have a good weekend, Chris. 
best
Eddie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is, you characterized my position correctly.<br />
It&#8217;s just that It was never my intention to single out First Second. And a reader whose only connection with comics is through the comics specialty shops (and not libraries and the mainstream book trade) will probably not even have noticed the general shift, or may not notice it until it becomes more pronounced.</p>
<p>Anyway, have a good weekend, Chris.<br />
best<br />
Eddie</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arf
I guess you did corner me into saying it.
(being a phone interview I didn&#039;t compose my answer as carefully as the comicsreporter one)
no misinterpretation, no apology necessary. 

In fact the most recent project First Second asked me to consider illustrating was too dark for my taste and I declined. But I do think the marketplace will encourage them to incline more toward the kids stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arf<br />
I guess you did corner me into saying it.<br />
(being a phone interview I didn&#8217;t compose my answer as carefully as the comicsreporter one)<br />
no misinterpretation, no apology necessary. </p>
<p>In fact the most recent project First Second asked me to consider illustrating was too dark for my taste and I declined. But I do think the marketplace will encourage them to incline more toward the kids stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mautner</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mautner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie, 

Sorry if I mischaracterized your original statement. I meant to imply that you were concerned the company -- and by extension the book industry at large -- was heading in a direction more towards kids&#039; books, not that you felt they were already there, or that there was any malicious intent on anyone&#039;s part.

Here&#039;s what you said in our interview (re: the book you were currently shipping around):

Q: First Second doesn’t want it?

A: It’s kind of outside of their range. I haven&#039;t even showed it to them actually. They’re tending mostly to kids books. I don’t think they want to go that way. I don’t think it would be a home for this book. I think Leotard will be good for them because it kind of looks like a kids book on the outside. I just hope they still think that even by the time they get to the bearded pirate.

Again, I apologize if I misconstrued or misinterpreted your statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie, </p>
<p>Sorry if I mischaracterized your original statement. I meant to imply that you were concerned the company &#8212; and by extension the book industry at large &#8212; was heading in a direction more towards kids&#8217; books, not that you felt they were already there, or that there was any malicious intent on anyone&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what you said in our interview (re: the book you were currently shipping around):</p>
<p>Q: First Second doesn’t want it?</p>
<p>A: It’s kind of outside of their range. I haven&#8217;t even showed it to them actually. They’re tending mostly to kids books. I don’t think they want to go that way. I don’t think it would be a home for this book. I think Leotard will be good for them because it kind of looks like a kids book on the outside. I just hope they still think that even by the time they get to the bearded pirate.</p>
<p>Again, I apologize if I misconstrued or misinterpreted your statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Campbell</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1685</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. Young readers, note that I misspelled &#039;principle&#039;.
sorry

e.c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Young readers, note that I misspelled &#8216;principle&#8217;.<br />
sorry</p>
<p>e.c.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Campbell</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/a-short-interview-with-first-seconds-mark-siegel/comment-page-1/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Q:  Would you care to respond to Eddie Campbell’s comments about :01 focusing more on children’s books to the detriment of more adult-oriented material?&quot;

That&#039;s not what I said. I have never made any comment whatsoever on First Second&#039;s catalogue. I said the whole business is shifting in the direction of &#039;young readers&#039;. Ten years ago I don&#039;t remember ever hearing the term &#039;young readers&#039;. Now I hear it all the time. It&#039;s part of having won America&#039;s libraries over to comics. They have accepted the package on the principal that it&#039;s a young readers genre, a tool they can use to get the kids reading. And all good things to librarians everywhere.

Eddie Campbell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Q:  Would you care to respond to Eddie Campbell’s comments about :01 focusing more on children’s books to the detriment of more adult-oriented material?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what I said. I have never made any comment whatsoever on First Second&#8217;s catalogue. I said the whole business is shifting in the direction of &#8216;young readers&#8217;. Ten years ago I don&#8217;t remember ever hearing the term &#8216;young readers&#8217;. Now I hear it all the time. It&#8217;s part of having won America&#8217;s libraries over to comics. They have accepted the package on the principal that it&#8217;s a young readers genre, a tool they can use to get the kids reading. And all good things to librarians everywhere.</p>
<p>Eddie Campbell</p>
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