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	<title>Comments on: Just Past the Horizon:  Mary Who?</title>
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		<title>By: Sallyp</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/just-past-the-horizon-mary-who/comment-page-1/#comment-1483</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of these days I REALLY should learn to proofread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of these days I REALLY should learn to proofread.</p>
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		<title>By: Sluggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sluggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, Sallyp, I prefer to show off my Roman credentials (sorry, that was way too easy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, Sallyp, I prefer to show off my Roman credentials (sorry, that was way too easy).</p>
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		<title>By: Sallyp</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/01/just-past-the-horizon-mary-who/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mary Sue&quot; falls into the category of one of those phrases tossed off by people who are seeking to establish their greek credentials.  It makes them look cool and world-weary, without having to actually put in the effort to SAY why they like or dislike the character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mary Sue&#8221; falls into the category of one of those phrases tossed off by people who are seeking to establish their greek credentials.  It makes them look cool and world-weary, without having to actually put in the effort to SAY why they like or dislike the character.</p>
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		<title>By: Calista Brill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calista Brill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said -- and it needed saying. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said &#8212; and it needed saying. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Myron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone came out and point out the overuse of the term &quot;Mary Sue.&quot; Now if only someone come out and do the same for the term &quot;filler.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone came out and point out the overuse of the term &#8220;Mary Sue.&#8221; Now if only someone come out and do the same for the term &#8220;filler.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ijusten</title>
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		<dc:creator>ijusten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to argue that &quot;superhero&quot; and &quot;mary sue&quot; are not interchangeable. &quot;Mary Sue&quot; is a character that is so awesome that she/he doesn&#039;t have but one flaw - and that flaw is just there to have contrast. A beauty mole, if you will. 

Certainly, a superhero can be written as such. But a writer can make the assumption than the reader is fully aware of the flaws and backstory of the character and doesn&#039;t need to be highlighted every twenty pages. THAT&#039;S good writing. 

But sometimes we get characters (brand new ones) whose backstory and current occupation don&#039;t really ad up. The writer has just picked cool traits one after another without bothering to think how they can all exist inside one person. Most of the 90s characters seem to be mary sues in all but names. That they were later developed into real characters don&#039;t mean that Cable, Deadpool and X-Man started out as rather underworked is hard to deny. 

That there are people who don&#039;t know how to use the terms right doesn&#039;t mean that the term itself wouldn&#039;t have meaning or value.

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Of course, just because the character seems to be perfect doesn&#039;t make him a mary sue. Invincible springs to mind; the fact that he acts like a real person and not a two-dimensional model makes all the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to argue that &#8220;superhero&#8221; and &#8220;mary sue&#8221; are not interchangeable. &#8220;Mary Sue&#8221; is a character that is so awesome that she/he doesn&#8217;t have but one flaw &#8211; and that flaw is just there to have contrast. A beauty mole, if you will. </p>
<p>Certainly, a superhero can be written as such. But a writer can make the assumption than the reader is fully aware of the flaws and backstory of the character and doesn&#8217;t need to be highlighted every twenty pages. THAT&#8217;S good writing. </p>
<p>But sometimes we get characters (brand new ones) whose backstory and current occupation don&#8217;t really ad up. The writer has just picked cool traits one after another without bothering to think how they can all exist inside one person. Most of the 90s characters seem to be mary sues in all but names. That they were later developed into real characters don&#8217;t mean that Cable, Deadpool and X-Man started out as rather underworked is hard to deny. </p>
<p>That there are people who don&#8217;t know how to use the terms right doesn&#8217;t mean that the term itself wouldn&#8217;t have meaning or value.</p>
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<p>Of course, just because the character seems to be perfect doesn&#8217;t make him a mary sue. Invincible springs to mind; the fact that he acts like a real person and not a two-dimensional model makes all the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: edc</title>
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		<dc:creator>edc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lisa, thankyou for articulating a very good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lisa, thankyou for articulating a very good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Those tests were kinda fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Those tests were kinda fun.</p>
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