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		<title>By: cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And while some would like to argue that we should print on cheaper paper and use cheaper coloring, it doesn’t wash, because the minute we do that, we’ll notice a significant decline in readership and interest in comics. Lets be real, your video games are not Pong anymore either You can’t move backwards.
And realistically, nobody, truly, wants to move backwards. Sure, I bet Hollywood could go back to doing nothing but black and white non special effects movies, but lets see where that gets us. Like anything, in our hearts, we want to see comics look as great and spectacular as they can, but to do that, we have to remain competitive not just with other comic companies, but with other mediums and in this changing world, everything is costing more.&quot;  --Feb20. Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada

the problem is that he&#039;s juggling too much.  the answer is simple, and simple is hard.  instead of focusing on the human quality of story and art, he comes off as a status quo man trying to please everyone. dot matrix color printing was cheaper and paper was cheaper.  how much?  i don&#039;t know, but before and after there was a huge leap in prices in the early 90&#039;s.  i had no problem with dot matrix or lesser paper, and if it meant shaving up to a dollar off a given book, i highly doubt anyone else would either.  but he doesn&#039;t even seem to care to find out: status quo.

it takes faith in the reader and courage to cut away from everything else and ride out the storm.  if he can&#039;t muster it, 4 and 5 dollar comics certainly won&#039;t cut it.  i&#039;ve read them at bookstores, sometimes at comic shops.  it takes maybe 5 minutes and their forgotten.  story compression is gone.  i won&#039;t look down on the leadership behind D.C. and Marvel, but i can&#039;t look up to them either, let alone enjoy their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"And while some would like to argue that we should print on cheaper paper and use cheaper coloring, it doesn’t wash, because the minute we do that, we’ll notice a significant decline in readership and interest in comics. Lets be real, your video games are not Pong anymore either You can’t move backwards.<br />
And realistically, nobody, truly, wants to move backwards. Sure, I bet Hollywood could go back to doing nothing but black and white non special effects movies, but lets see where that gets us. Like anything, in our hearts, we want to see comics look as great and spectacular as they can, but to do that, we have to remain competitive not just with other comic companies, but with other mediums and in this changing world, everything is costing more."  --Feb20. Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada</p>
<p>the problem is that he's juggling too much.  the answer is simple, and simple is hard.  instead of focusing on the human quality of story and art, he comes off as a status quo man trying to please everyone. dot matrix color printing was cheaper and paper was cheaper.  how much?  i don't know, but before and after there was a huge leap in prices in the early 90's.  i had no problem with dot matrix or lesser paper, and if it meant shaving up to a dollar off a given book, i highly doubt anyone else would either.  but he doesn't even seem to care to find out: status quo.</p>
<p>it takes faith in the reader and courage to cut away from everything else and ride out the storm.  if he can't muster it, 4 and 5 dollar comics certainly won't cut it.  i've read them at bookstores, sometimes at comic shops.  it takes maybe 5 minutes and their forgotten.  story compression is gone.  i won't look down on the leadership behind D.C. and Marvel, but i can't look up to them either, let alone enjoy their work.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyJazz</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-3/#comment-10894</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyJazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the additional postings.  It appears nearly all of us agree that the price increases are a horrible mistake, and some significant number of us fear the end of the comics industry because of these large increases during this country&#039;s depression.  (and what about the potential demise of the LCS?)

However, I also submit (and others have mentioned) that comics offer less value per issue than ever before.  The panels are larger, some comics are more &#039;cartoony&#039;, and the stories are less dense.  A 12cent Charlton from the 60s probably has the amount of story contents of 3 or 4 issues today (though certainly I wouldn&#039;t argue quality with most Charlton books...).   Coloration has improved substantially, but the other comic elements (lettering, story, art) have not---though some artists do stretch boundaries and produce some wonderful results....  Still, there are fewer panels per page for most publishers today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the additional postings.  It appears nearly all of us agree that the price increases are a horrible mistake, and some significant number of us fear the end of the comics industry because of these large increases during this country's depression.  (and what about the potential demise of the LCS?)</p>
<p>However, I also submit (and others have mentioned) that comics offer less value per issue than ever before.  The panels are larger, some comics are more 'cartoony', and the stories are less dense.  A 12cent Charlton from the 60s probably has the amount of story contents of 3 or 4 issues today (though certainly I wouldn't argue quality with most Charlton books...).   Coloration has improved substantially, but the other comic elements (lettering, story, art) have not---though some artists do stretch boundaries and produce some wonderful results....  Still, there are fewer panels per page for most publishers today...</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.J.</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-10875</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been giving this some more  thought. back in the mid 1980s, marvel raised the price on just their mini series, to 75 cents, under the statement, that they would then stave off price increases on the rest of the line. A 3.50 price on the minis, I&#039;d go for, with holding the good selling books at 2.99, but rolling back the price with the poorer selling titles to 2.50, and the on the brink titles,to 1.99.As is, they are doing the worst thing,at the worst time.Funny, but time was,in the mid 80s, they didnt dare go right from 60 cents to 75 cents.The silver age books, continue to skyrocket in value, as most of the newer end up in the 25 cent- 1.00. bins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been giving this some more  thought. back in the mid 1980s, marvel raised the price on just their mini series, to 75 cents, under the statement, that they would then stave off price increases on the rest of the line. A 3.50 price on the minis, I'd go for, with holding the good selling books at 2.99, but rolling back the price with the poorer selling titles to 2.50, and the on the brink titles,to 1.99.As is, they are doing the worst thing,at the worst time.Funny, but time was,in the mid 80s, they didnt dare go right from 60 cents to 75 cents.The silver age books, continue to skyrocket in value, as most of the newer end up in the 25 cent- 1.00. bins.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a stupid move to increase the price. I am and always be against this.

If the company has too much costs then they have to cut back within the company, not at the expense of the reader or charge more for their ads inside their best selling books.

Marvel publishes more monthly book now than ever so they still are doing good business so why trying to gouge the readers plus they earn more money because of movie revenues and other merchandise revenue. so they are just trying to rip people off...

As a kid looking for fun,what would you choose, rent a video game that will last for hours or days or read a comic that will last for half an hour to an hour if you are a slow reader. think about this.

Rising prices will only lead to people buying less book and looking for cheaper entertainment that will last longer. People are not dumb. Goign this way the publishers will only end up killing their business.

The prices are rising but the quantity of the product is the same as decades ago. It is a no win situation for the reader.

Too many books, too much of a high cost. Marvel does not care about it&#039;s readers anymore, looking at this article they see people as just ATM machines that will give them moeny over and over.


nuff said !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a stupid move to increase the price. I am and always be against this.</p>
<p>If the company has too much costs then they have to cut back within the company, not at the expense of the reader or charge more for their ads inside their best selling books.</p>
<p>Marvel publishes more monthly book now than ever so they still are doing good business so why trying to gouge the readers plus they earn more money because of movie revenues and other merchandise revenue. so they are just trying to rip people off...</p>
<p>As a kid looking for fun,what would you choose, rent a video game that will last for hours or days or read a comic that will last for half an hour to an hour if you are a slow reader. think about this.</p>
<p>Rising prices will only lead to people buying less book and looking for cheaper entertainment that will last longer. People are not dumb. Goign this way the publishers will only end up killing their business.</p>
<p>The prices are rising but the quantity of the product is the same as decades ago. It is a no win situation for the reader.</p>
<p>Too many books, too much of a high cost. Marvel does not care about it's readers anymore, looking at this article they see people as just ATM machines that will give them moeny over and over.</p>
<p>nuff said !</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.J.</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-10851</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some ten or so years back, I recall Disney bigshot Eisner, making the remark, that the admission prices to Disneyland &amp; world, would be continued to be jacked up, until attendence dropped off. the same philosophy is being put into action here.The characters that kirby, Ditko &amp; Lee crafted, over 45 years ago, are very beloved to a generation of fans, but we are in times riviling the decade of the 1930s, and they&#039;re roasting the goose that layed the golden eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some ten or so years back, I recall Disney bigshot Eisner, making the remark, that the admission prices to Disneyland &amp; world, would be continued to be jacked up, until attendence dropped off. the same philosophy is being put into action here.The characters that kirby, Ditko &amp; Lee crafted, over 45 years ago, are very beloved to a generation of fans, but we are in times riviling the decade of the 1930s, and they're roasting the goose that layed the golden eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall, how back nearly 35 years ago in 1974, a former bud walked away from comic collecting totally, because of marvels5 cent price increase, followed by deadline doom reprints. In all farness, he was looking for an excuse to call it quits. He gave a fortune in todays prices of books away,not to me of course.Anyway, I make a graph at the end of each year, listing month by month, the books Im considering picking up next year. When you have just 10 books short of a 550 issue run like the avengers, it&#039;s admitingly, hard to call it a day, eeasier with the prices jacked up as they are.Same for daredevil.Back in 1995, with spectaculer spidy 226 or so, they crossed the line, with the spidy clone saga, and nearly wrecked the company. The Ron perlman era, was the worst era in comics history. You would think they learned a little respect for their readership.Im learning the great pleasure of picking up books a few years down the line,in the 50 cent/75 cent boxes.Im definitly shaving a few monthlys and one shots off my list.I also predict the death of the comic shp news  pretty soon,inasmuch as most shops i know off quit after they more then doubled their prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall, how back nearly 35 years ago in 1974, a former bud walked away from comic collecting totally, because of marvels5 cent price increase, followed by deadline doom reprints. In all farness, he was looking for an excuse to call it quits. He gave a fortune in todays prices of books away,not to me of course.Anyway, I make a graph at the end of each year, listing month by month, the books Im considering picking up next year. When you have just 10 books short of a 550 issue run like the avengers, it's admitingly, hard to call it a day, eeasier with the prices jacked up as they are.Same for daredevil.Back in 1995, with spectaculer spidy 226 or so, they crossed the line, with the spidy clone saga, and nearly wrecked the company. The Ron perlman era, was the worst era in comics history. You would think they learned a little respect for their readership.Im learning the great pleasure of picking up books a few years down the line,in the 50 cent/75 cent boxes.Im definitly shaving a few monthlys and one shots off my list.I also predict the death of the comic shp news  pretty soon,inasmuch as most shops i know off quit after they more then doubled their prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-10847</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to lie, I was having a hard enough time trying to get all the titles I got (when towards the end was just about everything Marvel put out) when the prices were 2.99, when the 3.99 books hit (with 4.99 double sized issues), that just kinda killed the whole comic thing for me. I&#039;ve been collecting mainstream Marvel comics since 1989, but with this economy the way it is right now, I&#039;m not putting myself in the poor house for the House of Ideas, it&#039;s been a fun and wild ride, but I&#039;m not sticking around for 40, 3.99 titles and you can bet for sure I have no intentions upon EVER paying 4.99 monthly for a comic book, I mean seriously comic collecting is getting more expensive than a night at the movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not going to lie, I was having a hard enough time trying to get all the titles I got (when towards the end was just about everything Marvel put out) when the prices were 2.99, when the 3.99 books hit (with 4.99 double sized issues), that just kinda killed the whole comic thing for me. I've been collecting mainstream Marvel comics since 1989, but with this economy the way it is right now, I'm not putting myself in the poor house for the House of Ideas, it's been a fun and wild ride, but I'm not sticking around for 40, 3.99 titles and you can bet for sure I have no intentions upon EVER paying 4.99 monthly for a comic book, I mean seriously comic collecting is getting more expensive than a night at the movies.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyJazz</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-10837</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyJazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I shouldn&#039;t complain.  I&#039;ve probably saved over $100 or more this year because of my reduced comic buying.  I don&#039;t buy any $3.99 Marvels, and I am buying only a few additional DCs due to their lower prices---  But this new price point has been a good reason for me to reduce my comics-related spending, and enjoy other methods of entertainment.

We all enter cycles where we are fully engaged in comics (knowing most books&#039; creators, knowing of significant events),  and we all have other cycles where we find comics rather boring and nearly tedious.

This price increase is precipitating a less engaged cycle, but one that I fear will become permanent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I shouldn't complain.  I've probably saved over $100 or more this year because of my reduced comic buying.  I don't buy any $3.99 Marvels, and I am buying only a few additional DCs due to their lower prices---  But this new price point has been a good reason for me to reduce my comics-related spending, and enjoy other methods of entertainment.</p>
<p>We all enter cycles where we are fully engaged in comics (knowing most books' creators, knowing of significant events),  and we all have other cycles where we find comics rather boring and nearly tedious.</p>
<p>This price increase is precipitating a less engaged cycle, but one that I fear will become permanent.</p>
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		<title>By: HerrMike</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/more-on-marvels-price-increases/comment-page-2/#comment-10806</link>
		<dc:creator>HerrMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, Rob, he’s only raising taxes on those who makes a lot of money. If I remember correctly, only on those who make over $250,000 a year. How can this possibly hurt you? And don;t give me that crap about higher taxes will ruin the economy. We’ve had lower taxes on the upper class for nearly 8 years now, and the economy couldn’t possibly be any worse.&quot;

Cap&#039;n Trade says YES IT CAN!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Well, Rob, he’s only raising taxes on those who makes a lot of money. If I remember correctly, only on those who make over $250,000 a year. How can this possibly hurt you? And don;t give me that crap about higher taxes will ruin the economy. We’ve had lower taxes on the upper class for nearly 8 years now, and the economy couldn’t possibly be any worse."</p>
<p>Cap'n Trade says YES IT CAN!!</p>
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		<title>By: HerrMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>HerrMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greedy Marvel! Trying to get more money out of me! Well, that money is MINE, Marvel! It&#039;s MINE!!!! You OWE me the comic at a price I am willing to pay!!!

Seriously folks, people who whine about corporate greed are the greediest little turds around. 

As for the wisdom of raising prices, time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greedy Marvel! Trying to get more money out of me! Well, that money is MINE, Marvel! It's MINE!!!! You OWE me the comic at a price I am willing to pay!!!</p>
<p>Seriously folks, people who whine about corporate greed are the greediest little turds around. </p>
<p>As for the wisdom of raising prices, time will tell.</p>
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