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		<title>By: Jeff DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason the &quot;safe&quot; characters haven&#039;t been working is DC has screwed them all up.  Hawkman was selling just fine until someone at DC decided to change the book to Hawkgirl and it tanked.

Atom, Firestorm, Blue Beetle and Aquaman all died because they weren&#039;t the characters they claimed to be but rather cheap or politically correct replacements.

I understand Giffen is trying to create rather than recreate, but there was no demand for a Magog series and based on Giffen&#039;s recent work (Suicide Squad, Ambush Bug) he hasn&#039;t exactly been setting the sales charts on fire.

DC just needs to smarten up, bring back the greatest heroes ever published and give us stories written by people who know how to write comics instead of the hollywood hacks moonlighting as comic writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the &#8220;safe&#8221; characters haven&#8217;t been working is DC has screwed them all up.  Hawkman was selling just fine until someone at DC decided to change the book to Hawkgirl and it tanked.</p>
<p>Atom, Firestorm, Blue Beetle and Aquaman all died because they weren&#8217;t the characters they claimed to be but rather cheap or politically correct replacements.</p>
<p>I understand Giffen is trying to create rather than recreate, but there was no demand for a Magog series and based on Giffen&#8217;s recent work (Suicide Squad, Ambush Bug) he hasn&#8217;t exactly been setting the sales charts on fire.</p>
<p>DC just needs to smarten up, bring back the greatest heroes ever published and give us stories written by people who know how to write comics instead of the hollywood hacks moonlighting as comic writers.</p>
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		<title>By: preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the whole &quot;Where Magog is going before what may or may not be the Kingdom Come future&quot; premise is interesting, especially how Giffen likens it to a series about the Comedian&#039;s early days. 

We don&#039;t know for sure if this Magog will kill the Joker and essentially doom the DCU, and the fun will be seeing him take that path or some other development that doesn&#039;t lead to it. I am honestly very interested in this series after reading Giffen&#039;s interview but I still need a little push to see whether I want to trade wait it or get it monthly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the whole &#8220;Where Magog is going before what may or may not be the Kingdom Come future&#8221; premise is interesting, especially how Giffen likens it to a series about the Comedian&#8217;s early days. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know for sure if this Magog will kill the Joker and essentially doom the DCU, and the fun will be seeing him take that path or some other development that doesn&#8217;t lead to it. I am honestly very interested in this series after reading Giffen&#8217;s interview but I still need a little push to see whether I want to trade wait it or get it monthly.</p>
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		<title>By: DrunkJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrunkJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why I&#039;m defending this idea, I&#039;ve never been a big fan of Giffen, I&#039;m no fan of Porter, but I do enjoy the idea of a more...martial super hero in the DCU, if it has to be Magog, fine, the design is over the top but far more classical than the design it is meant to parody. Magog next to Superman looks odd, but not out of place and dated like Cable would, it&#039;s the horns, I think the horns scream mythology and the walking stick does as well. 

Plus, I liked David Reid before he became Magog, no nonsense, no fuss didn&#039;t even want a code name.

He&#039;s no Citizen Steel, or Wildcat III, but he&#039;s one of the more interesting new characters in the current JSofA.

Honestly, I&#039;m more interested in reading this book than more Grant Morrison Batman nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why I&#8217;m defending this idea, I&#8217;ve never been a big fan of Giffen, I&#8217;m no fan of Porter, but I do enjoy the idea of a more&#8230;martial super hero in the DCU, if it has to be Magog, fine, the design is over the top but far more classical than the design it is meant to parody. Magog next to Superman looks odd, but not out of place and dated like Cable would, it&#8217;s the horns, I think the horns scream mythology and the walking stick does as well. </p>
<p>Plus, I liked David Reid before he became Magog, no nonsense, no fuss didn&#8217;t even want a code name.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s no Citizen Steel, or Wildcat III, but he&#8217;s one of the more interesting new characters in the current JSofA.</p>
<p>Honestly, I&#8217;m more interested in reading this book than more Grant Morrison Batman nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with Morozzo. 

They&#039;ve given Aquaman how many chances? Why not let a new character step up to the plate with a couple of proven veterans. In this market, what harm could it possibly do?

Of all the characters introduced or reintroduced in the pages of JSA to get an ongoing, I think I would have chosen Citizen Steel over Magog, but with Giffen at the wheel, I&#039;ll give this a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Morozzo. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve given Aquaman how many chances? Why not let a new character step up to the plate with a couple of proven veterans. In this market, what harm could it possibly do?</p>
<p>Of all the characters introduced or reintroduced in the pages of JSA to get an ongoing, I think I would have chosen Citizen Steel over Magog, but with Giffen at the wheel, I&#8217;ll give this a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it worked for Lobo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it worked for Lobo.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a market where launching and sustaining a new comic book title, especially one featuring a new character is getting harder and harder, the Magog ongoing series seems like a very rash business decision.

First, the decision was editorially-driven as opposed to creatively-driven.  Giffen didn&#039;t approach DC Comics with a great pitch and story idreas about Magog, DC approached Giffen.  This does not bode well.

Second, I can&#039;t find any hard evidence that there is any kind of fanbase or support for the Magog character.  Did sales issues of Justice Society of America featuring Magog on the cover spike significantly?  Are there fan sites dedicated to Magog popping up on the Internet?  Does he even have a facebook or myspace fan page?

Third, why not test the waters with a mini-series first before launching an ongong series?

The decision just seems arbitrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a market where launching and sustaining a new comic book title, especially one featuring a new character is getting harder and harder, the Magog ongoing series seems like a very rash business decision.</p>
<p>First, the decision was editorially-driven as opposed to creatively-driven.  Giffen didn&#8217;t approach DC Comics with a great pitch and story idreas about Magog, DC approached Giffen.  This does not bode well.</p>
<p>Second, I can&#8217;t find any hard evidence that there is any kind of fanbase or support for the Magog character.  Did sales issues of Justice Society of America featuring Magog on the cover spike significantly?  Are there fan sites dedicated to Magog popping up on the Internet?  Does he even have a facebook or myspace fan page?</p>
<p>Third, why not test the waters with a mini-series first before launching an ongong series?</p>
<p>The decision just seems arbitrary.</p>
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		<title>By: DrunkJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrunkJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadpool is half parody of Deathstroke (with a personality akin to the Joker) he&#039;s survived.

Lobo ain&#039;t nothing but a Wolverine riff, he&#039;s still kicking around, and had a huge following at one point.

Magog has had few moments to shine, how people can so easily dismiss him is kinda funny. &quot;We&#039;ve seen maybe 30 pages total with this character, but he sucks!&quot;

Hmmm, okay. How would that work at all for any character. A scant few appearances and if it doesn&#039;t set the internets on fire scrap it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadpool is half parody of Deathstroke (with a personality akin to the Joker) he&#8217;s survived.</p>
<p>Lobo ain&#8217;t nothing but a Wolverine riff, he&#8217;s still kicking around, and had a huge following at one point.</p>
<p>Magog has had few moments to shine, how people can so easily dismiss him is kinda funny. &#8220;We&#8217;ve seen maybe 30 pages total with this character, but he sucks!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm, okay. How would that work at all for any character. A scant few appearances and if it doesn&#8217;t set the internets on fire scrap it?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;something new&quot; statement is a bit interesting. While, yes, &quot;turning what was essentially a parody creation into an ongoing lead&quot; is new, I doubt that&#039;ll be the series&#039; tag line. There&#039;s not really much new about the character, though, which was kind of the point in his creation. That&#039;s not say a character *can&#039;t* outgrow his origins, but shaping Magog into a compelling lead seems like a tall challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;something new&#8221; statement is a bit interesting. While, yes, &#8220;turning what was essentially a parody creation into an ongoing lead&#8221; is new, I doubt that&#8217;ll be the series&#8217; tag line. There&#8217;s not really much new about the character, though, which was kind of the point in his creation. That&#8217;s not say a character *can&#8217;t* outgrow his origins, but shaping Magog into a compelling lead seems like a tall challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idea keeps growing on me.

Magog as the soldier-turned-hero is an interesting balance, and having him bring the violence could really make an interesting book. He was supposed to represent the 90s, but without actually giving him much depth in Thy Kingdom Come, they did give him a lot of POTENTIAL as the guy who might destroy the world and who holds the balance between the JSA and, say Black Adam.

It has interesting morality play value. We&#039;ll just have to see if it lives up to it, as I&#039;ve found Giffen to be *very* hit or miss in his last few projects at DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea keeps growing on me.</p>
<p>Magog as the soldier-turned-hero is an interesting balance, and having him bring the violence could really make an interesting book. He was supposed to represent the 90s, but without actually giving him much depth in Thy Kingdom Come, they did give him a lot of POTENTIAL as the guy who might destroy the world and who holds the balance between the JSA and, say Black Adam.</p>
<p>It has interesting morality play value. We&#8217;ll just have to see if it lives up to it, as I&#8217;ve found Giffen to be *very* hit or miss in his last few projects at DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 08:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not reading it. Magog is dull, the premise sounds boring and Keith Giffen has been in kind of a slump lately anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not reading it. Magog is dull, the premise sounds boring and Keith Giffen has been in kind of a slump lately anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: preston</title>
		<link>http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/05/your-mileage-may-vary-13/comment-page-1/#comment-10520</link>
		<dc:creator>preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 05:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something new, exactly.  That&#039;s what Keith&#039;s attempting to do, and that Jim guy is just projecting his own preferences (something that we all do of course, I&#039;m just saying it seems mor elike he&#039;s presenting it as a &quot;hey DC and Giffen you&#039;re WRONG&quot; rather than this is what i think).

And I&#039;m of the mindset that creators should write whoever the hell they want, not the characters an dsitautions that half the internet is gushing to see.  Maybe Giffen doesn&#039;t want to write Liberty Bell or Hourman or anyone else, but these days all that seems to matter is what someone personally wants, instead of what is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something new, exactly.  That&#8217;s what Keith&#8217;s attempting to do, and that Jim guy is just projecting his own preferences (something that we all do of course, I&#8217;m just saying it seems mor elike he&#8217;s presenting it as a &#8220;hey DC and Giffen you&#8217;re WRONG&#8221; rather than this is what i think).</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m of the mindset that creators should write whoever the hell they want, not the characters an dsitautions that half the internet is gushing to see.  Maybe Giffen doesn&#8217;t want to write Liberty Bell or Hourman or anyone else, but these days all that seems to matter is what someone personally wants, instead of what is good.</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 04:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least keith is trying something over due that is new for the comic industry though would rather dc resurect the shadow pack or at least finaly give the much under use ragman another chance or better let  Keith  do ambush bug again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least keith is trying something over due that is new for the comic industry though would rather dc resurect the shadow pack or at least finaly give the much under use ragman another chance or better let  Keith  do ambush bug again</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As there are precious few good in-continuity DC books around, I&#039;ll give it a look if I hear good things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As there are precious few good in-continuity DC books around, I&#8217;ll give it a look if I hear good things.</p>
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