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Twilight

Twilight

Conventions | Retailer Christopher Butcher, organizer of the Toronto Comic Arts Festival, surveys the comics-convention landscape and wonders where the comics are. He also comments on the Twilight “controversy” at Comic-Con International: “… The 10,000 Twilight fans at the con really were a problem for the show, but a lot of the reasons that got floated came from a sexist, xenophobic, bullshit fanboy place. I actually feel bad even writing this, but truly, legitimately, 6,000 people at the show just for Twilight means 6,000 people that weren’t spending money at the show means 6,000 people that might’ve wanted to go that had an interest in dropping a few bucks at the various vendors? Shut out.” [Comics212]

Publishing | Where have all the great comic-book hucksters gone? [Comiks Debris]

Fahrenheit 451

Fahrenheit 451

Publishing | Lynn Neary spotlights Tim Hamilton’s graphic-novel adaptation of Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451. [NPR]

Publishing | Sam Kusek takes a look at Viz Media’s Shonen Sunday website and titles: “There has been a lot of discussion in the past few years about how the internet is going to be the future of manga and anime. Assimilating manga into an online format has been met with some distaste in the past few years; however, with Shonen Sunday, I believe Viz is taking the right steps towards utilizing the internet.” [Manga Recon]

Publishing | Viz Media is hiring a director of marketing and brand management and a retail development assistant. [via Japanator]

Parker: The Hunter

Parker: The Hunter

Sales charts | Say what you will about The New York Times Graphic Books Bestseller List, but this week’s hardcover category is certainly diverse. Neil Gaiman and Andy Kubert’s Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader? (DC Comics) leads off the chart, followed by David Mazzucchelli’s Asterios Polyp (Pantheon), Darwyn Cooke’s Parker: The Hunter (IDW), Alan Moore and Melinda Gebbie’s Lost Girls (Top Shelf), and Joss Whedon, Bryan Lynch and Franco Urru’s Angel: After the Fall, Vol. 4. (On a related note, George Gene Gustines reviews the top three hardcovers.)

Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’ Watchmen and Natsuki Takaya’s Fruits Basket, Vol. 3, hold on to the top spots in the paperback and manga divisions. [The New York Times]

Retailing | Arnold Wayne Jones spotlights The Variants, the new web series produced by Zeus Comics and Collectibles in Dallas. [Dallas Voice]

Anime | The recession has dealt a blow to Japan’s $2-billion-a-year animation industry. [CNN]

Fandom | The 10 types of (constumed) Comic-Con fans. [Neatorama]

Pop culture | “Spider-Man’s 8 Most Insane Non-Comic Book Moments.” [Topless Robot]

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Quit crying about Twilight, you’re more emo than Twilight fans at this point!

Did you even read the piece?

I keep hearing about how useless it was for the Twilight fans to be at the con because they didn’t buy anything.

I think I spent a total of $50 at the convention itself — less than the cost of my ticket. One exclusive figure, one hard-to-find variant book, and a handful of cheap trade paperbacks on Sunday afternoon.

Oh, and a Mrs. Fields’ cookie.

I don’t think my wife bought anything at all at the con itself.

But we spent 4 1/2 days walking our feet sore, standing in lines, attending panels, going to signings, and generally having a good time experiencing the con.

Should we not have gone because we didn’t spend enough money?

I just don’t get it. The twilight fans showed up last year, and we knew they were coming again this year.
And yet with a year of lead time, the industry did nothing to try to capture their attention.
I just see a wasted opportunity to create some entry level comic fans.

Though I suppose you could say the same things of devout fans of, oh, the TV show “Lost” or the “Avatar” movie, or any other movie or TV show that was showcased/premiered at SDCC.

People/Fans who went SPECIFICALLY for panels, previews or freebies may have decided that that was enough. That they had no interest in superhero comics, artist drawings or Small Press publications. That they only wanted to see the media stuff and felt that the cost to get there/tickets/boarding was enough to pay.

And that’s fine, because this Con is all encompassing.

The only way any one could really judge this situation would be to cut the con in half. Half filled with all outside media (movies/TV/video games) and the other half filled with comics/books/artists/writers. With an admission for one or the other (or both). Similar to how some amusement parks that are alongside water parks have separate admissions, or a combo.

This way, if one was really inclined, they could come to some conclusion on who spends money where.

I’m not saying that this should be done, but if those involved really want to see why people attend SDCC a something like this may work.

I think it is a hatred of Twilight fans that is fueling this b/c of it’s reputation as being supernatural romance novel bad special effects, insult to horror fans and vampires garbage. stephanie meyers is a terrible writer and i think her fans are as dumb as a post but i guess they have the right to be there. Although if you watch videos on youtube you will see why people hate them so much, they are just obnoxious screaming girls just into puberty and just start screaming when they see a boy without his shirt on.

Sure it was frustrating that all of the twilight fans were there, but they have just as much right to attend as anyone else. And, as hard as it is to believe, it can be easy to go to Comic-Con and not spend a lot of money at the booths- I didn’t make it to most of the retailers until Sunday and I was there the entire week. You get caught up in hanging around the movie booths and publishing booths with all of the freebies.

My concern is the scheduling of the Twilight panel- I think it needs to be the first thing, Thursday morning. Just get it over with and free up the seats in Hall H.

Also, as crazy and hardcore most people see comic book/sci-fi nerds as, the Twilight fans put us to shame. The line for the Twilight panel began Tuesday night at midnight. That is a lot of dedication for about 30 minutes of payoff.

Cutting the convention in half won’t happen- it draws too much money to the city for them to scale it back in any way and as much as people love to complain about movies taking over, that’s a huge draw for a lot of attendees.

Splitting the con in half would also punish those of us who do want to see both the comics and other-media aspects of the show.

It’s also impractical.

While people going primarily for the movie/TV/gaming elements might not be terribly interested in the comics elements, I expect most of the people going primarily for comics also have some interest in the movie/TV/gaming world. Then there’s the question of how to classify movies or games that are based on comics, and vice versa. Should an Iron Man movie presentation require a media ticket or a comics ticket? Say you split the exhibit hall between media and comics – where do you put the Star Wars booth? There’s more Star Wars canon in comic book form than movie form these days.

“Splitting the con in half would also punish those of us who do want to see both the comics and other-media aspects of the show.”

Not necessarily. I don’t know how much tickets were this year, but let’s say, for arguments sake that a daily ticket costs $20. A fan who only wants to buy books, artwork, meet cartoonists, etc… could pay $10. A fan who only wants to see the media stuff can pay $10. If someone wants to do both they could pay $18, getting a discount by buying two.

By doing this you could also, theoretically, allow more people the opportunity to go to the con.

Let’s say, for arguments sake again, that the daily SDCC max attendance is 10,000 people. That’s 10,000 people paying one price to see the whole con, including those who don’t care for the media and those who don’t care for the comics.
If you charged the two price idea if 10,300 people wanted to see the media stuff that day and 10,700 wanted
to go to just the comics, then all could attend.

In fact, if you went to San Diego for the weekend and wanted to see all of it you could plan you visit by the schedule, seeing all the media on one day while the comics and art the next.

Hey, I’m not saying that this wouldn’t be difficult to set up and put in motion, I’m not even saying that idea will work. I’m just reacting to all the many, many blogs, sites and message boards that are decrying the lack of support that comics are getting compared to the other media at a convention called Comics Convention.

I figured it’s better to come up with ideas to fix a problem (if there is one) then to add to the chorus of complaints.

“If you charged the two price idea if 10,300 people wanted to see the media stuff that day and 10,700 wanted
to go to just the comics, then all could attend.”

Oops! I meant to type 5,300 and 5,700.
Cause what I originally typed doesn’t add up!

Why is Christopher Butcher so sure that the Twilight fans didn’t see anything else at the con or spend any money? Isn’t it more likely that they bought things, enjoyed the whole thing, and are that much more aware of comics now?

“Why is Christopher Butcher so sure that the Twilight fans didn’t see anything else at the con or spend any money? Isn’t it more likely that they bought things, enjoyed the whole thing, and are that much more aware of comics now?”

Yeah, I think this goes back to the point made by Richard J. Marcej, about how it could be applied to any fan of any non-comic property, plus your point that it’s not a guarantee that none of those Twilight fans didn’t buy anything comic related. It really just seems like Butcher is picking on a set of fans, or just focusing on that specific set to make his article easier to write.

Also Fernald brings up a good point; if the industry as a whole wants to reach outside people and it knew Twilight fans were coming, why didn’t it try to get their attention? I can think of plenty of horror, teen and indie comics that could be intresting to Twilight fans.

Ok, another thing I don’t get is the complaints about the con getting TOO big. For years we wanted attention.
We wanted to be seen as being able to run with the Big Dogs.

Now it happens and we’re mad because it’s HARD?

Look, shut up or play. Yes, we’re at a disadvantage, but hell, we’re in, we’re in the GAME. So get out there and try to grab the ball, you might not get to win the big game, but TRY.

I was there, and I did my best to play, it was fantastic, and yes, I did engage the “Twilight” fans, they were camping out next to my hotel at the movie theatre and were no different in enthusiasm and loyalty from the “Tron” fans I stood in line with for Flynn’s Arcade.
(Oh wait, the ‘Twilight’ fans screamed’ and the Tron fans were yelling “F bombs” across the street to drunken hecklers.)
Yeah, well…

Yes, San Diego is a VERY big con, but this is what we wished for, so adapt to the dream.

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