Comments on: Tom Brevoort on Marvel vs. DC

By: Marco

Marco — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:06:27 +0000

I like Tom and he’s a great editor, but he’s off base on this for many many reasons.

DC isn’t allowed to feel good about some success?

And does he really think someone isn’t going to buy Siege because of Blackest Night or vice versa?

People will buy or not on whether they think its good or crap — plain and simple!

By: Shaun

Shaun — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:15:53 +0000

“And bragging about an endorsement from Rob Liefeld? Lamest of lame.”

Alan Coil, FTW!!

By: Evan Waters

Evan Waters — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:28:03 +0000

Wait, stereotypically gay and monosyllabic/Rorshachian?

Those two don’t seem to really line up for me. I suppose you could have both, but at least Grant’s not going in any obvious direction.

By: DrunkJack

DrunkJack — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:03:05 +0000

“And man, don’t knock the Flamingo. First off- It’s hardly the only villain Morrison has created for Batman, and secondly, it’s entertaining.”

I disagree about it being entertaining. It didn’t entertain me.

By: Christian Otholm

Christian Otholm — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:07:35 +0000

People sure are taking 140 letter aphorisms seriously these days. Jesus Christ. Take a chill pill. DC- and Marvel employees can fool around and make little jokes on each other accounts as much as they want to.

And the reason Marvel tends to “say” more than DC is probably, because the company’s image, as a whole, is a bit less formal.

And man, don’t knock the Flamingo. First off- It’s hardly the only villain Morrison has created for Batman, and secondly, it’s entertaining. Plus where Batman Pre-R.I.P. was about defining and toying around with the idea of Batman, Batman & Robin seems more set on exploring the Joker. Which is why all of the villains in it, are different reflections on the Joker as a character. I know it can be chagrine to people, but I do enjoy Morrison’s derridian approach to the series.

By: Alan Coil

Alan Coil — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:18:58 +0000

“I hear tell that folks up at the DC offices have been feeling pretty cocky …”

Probably not. Probably just congratulating themselves on good sales. Marvel has dominated the market, and will continue to dominate the market. DC knows this, and knows that one month does not equal a lifelong sales lead.

Brevoort needed something to yammer on about, so he created a false story to try to make himself and Marvel look big. It’s a sad, pathetic, psychological need that he just never seems to be able to fulfill.

And bragging about an endorsement from Rob Liefeld? Lamest of lame.

By: Alan Coil

Alan Coil — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:13:30 +0000

Chad said:

“…the inane back and forth between the “big two” was one of the reasons I gave up on their books.”

I agree that it is inane, but it is pretty much a one-sided “back and forth”. DC usually says little about Marvel, yet Marvel is always yapping on.

By: DrunkJack

DrunkJack — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:42:03 +0000

“Glad to see Marvel’s love of commerce outweighs their artistic sensibilities.”

As opposed to DC’s ‘artistic sensibilities’ which lie somewhere between “batshiat crazy” (Grant Morrison) and utterly frickin’ clueless (Dan DiDio), at least Marvel has a DIRECTION.

I mean, the Flamingo? Really? A stereotypically gay, monosyllabic (downright, Rorscahchian really) super-villain is Grant Morrison’s Big New Idea?

*shrug* Batroc’s scarier.

By: Jason Baur

Jason Baur — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:41:32 +0000

Of course it’s a competition. It’s business; given finite resources, success is zero-sum. For readers, it’s only a competition insofar as any reader feels compelled to assume a pathological association of his or her own self-worth and identity with any single company’s success. But for people within these companies, the competition is very real. Jobs and livelihood depend on it.

By: Chad

Chad — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:27:47 +0000

@ kranky

sadly you’re wrong. It is a competition for Brevoort and folks over at DC (whoever he’s referring too). Either way, the inane back and forth between the “big two” was one of the reasons I gave up on their books. I realize it’s supposed to be “all in good fun”….but it stopped being funny a LONG time ago.

By: torpor

torpor — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:53:51 +0000

Glad to see Marvel’s love of commerce outweighs their artistic sensibilities.

Move those units, people.

By: kranky

kranky — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:57:17 +0000

It’s not a competition, people.

By: Kevin Melrose

Kevin Melrose — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:21:26 +0000

Steve Rogers!

By: Wraith

Wraith — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:18:38 +0000

It isn’t Carol Danvers.

Here to help.

By: Rich

Rich — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:17:35 +0000

It better not be Bucky Barnes.

By: Amit!

Amit! — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:13:57 +0000

Considering that Ms. Marvel’s getting cancelled with #50, please, please tell me that one of the three major deaths isn’t Carol Danvers?

By: Deniz

Deniz — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:02:52 +0000

God, we’ll never be passed this.

Look, I’m a big DC fan, it’s great that they got the top 6 books…but does anyone really think that Marvel is going to lose to DC in market share? It’s absurd. It’s happened once in all the time I’ve been following the numbers, 1 YL.

Their characters are more marketable, are more popular, for whatever reason. Just enjoy your books!