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Superman and Batman exist in separate movie worlds, Nolan says

Superman, by Jim Lee

Superman, by Jim Lee

Fans who envisioned Warner Bros.’ reinvigorated superhero-movie slate as a “shared universe” littered with Easter eggs and cameos just may get their hopes dashed.

At least that’s what I glean from this Los Angeles Times profile of Christopher Nolan, who in February was tapped by the studio to mentor production of the next Superman movie (his brother and frequent collaborator Jonathan is rumored to direct).

Nolan, who of course directed the highly successful Batman Begins and The Dark Knight — they grossed more $1.3 billion in theaters worldwide — and who seems destined to helm the third installment, is enthusiastic about screenwriter David S. Goyer’s take on the Man of Steel. So enthusiastic, in fact, that it appears as if it was Nolan who approached the studio about he and his wife, producer Emma Thomas, getting “involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way.”

So, it’s finally confirmed that Nolan is overseeing the new Superman movie, and that Goyer is writing the screenplay. What’s not so certain is whether the film will be called Man of Steel, as has been widely reported. “I don’t know where this stuff comes from,” Thomas told LA Times writer Geoff Boucher.

(One other confirmation: The villain in the third Batman film won’t be Mr. Freeze.)

Nolan is complimentary of Bryan Singer’s 2006 film Superman Returns, and how it connected to Richard Donner’s icon version of the character. But it’s with this passage that Nolan squashes fandom dreams of, say, Lois Lane attending a Wayne Enterprises gala or eco-terrorist Pamela Isley releasing a toxin in the Metropolis subway system:

“A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that’s what I know how to do,” Nolan said, emphasizing the idea that Batman exists in a world where he is the only superhero and a similar approach to the Man of Steel would assure the integrity needed for the film. “Each serves to the internal logic of the story. They have nothing to do with each other.”

In short, we probably shouldn’t expect Gary Oldman to become the Samuel L. Jackson of the DC movie universe.



Emma Thomas, you mean.

It seems a backward step – how are they going to integrate Batman & the other heroes in any Justice League movie? Will teh Green Lantern acknowledge any other DC film heroes?

It seems they’ve managed the co-existence fine in the comics and Nolan seems to be re-inventing the wheel by isolating the characters.
Whilst Dark Knight was very good I do think the fan-boys over-hyped it and the media latched on to Heath Legder’s performance in an ironic postumous way. The film is over long and loses it’s way in the 3rd act – & ,in my opinion, the whole tone was far too dark.

I understand his reluctance for a shared film universe – Iron Man & Incredible Hulk was OK – but the real deal-breaker is how Brannagh incorporates Thor’s high fanatsy into the real world. If it fails then The Avengers will be high camp & lack credibility.

I’m not a fan of Nolan’s Batman films so I don’t expect a lot out of this.

Can’t say I’m surprised.

I knew everyone was jumping the gun saying Nolan was going to direct the Justice League feature, and that DC would be basically copying Marvel’s game plan. At least I never got my hopes up.

I knew that they would want to do something to differentiate themselves from Marvel. Making each film take place in its own universe is certainly as different as it gets.

Hopefully DC’s upcoming comic book movies are strong enough by themselves that they don’t need the support of cross-pollination to maintain interest with the fans.

I almost think it might be a mistake for the writers of Batman to take on Superman; two characters whose ideologies could not be more different. The two properties are so fundamentally different that I doubt that someone could turn in a completely different point-of-view for Superman than they did for Batman.

More than likely the decision to attach Nolan & Co. to Superman is only in the hopes of riding on the coattails of success of The Dark Knight. And trusting Goyer to solely write the script seems an even bigger mistake, God forbid he’s chosen as director (or Superman may very well turn into the nightmare that was Blade: Trinity).

I’m interested, though, as long as they don’t make Superman “dark ‘n edgy!!”

Just PLEASE don’t let Goyer direct. And get a co-writer in there!

So if a JLA movie actually happens, then that means that it’ll be an entirely new cast, and not at all connected with these solo films.

All things considered, I prefer the approach Marvel’s taking with their movies.

I care more about the individual movies over the ‘franchise’, and I trust Nolan, so I’m genuinely looking forward to this.

if there’s one person i trust with a franchise reboot, it’s nolan. i trust him with whatever he does with superman.

This is how it should be in the comics, IMO.

Why does Goyer still get work?

“I’m not a fan of Nolan’s Batman films so I don’t expect a lot out of this.”

It’s not April 1st… Are you just high? Were you maybe dropped on your head as a baby?

No offense, I’m just asking.

crime: 24/7. batman: night shift, superman: dayshift. story plot solved.

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