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The Source brought the news last week of yet another crossover, and it’s a doozie: Turns out the Tiny Titans live right near Riverdale, and at last they are going to meet up with their counterparts, Little Archie and his pals. It looks like the result will be extreme cuteness, with Tiny Titans artist Art Baltazar coming up with a fresh yet familiar look for the Riverdale set. (It’s interesting to speculate on what the crossover would have looked like if it went the other way, with Archie artists drawing the Tiny Titans.) It looks like this is going to be a series, with Tiny Titans/Little Archie #1 making the scene in October.

Meanwhile, at First Comics News, would-be Archie writer Jeff Krell, the creator of the long-running gay comic Jayson, explains why, after almost 30 years of his own comic, he still yearns to write about Riverdale. You can tell that both he and interviewer Mark Haney are longtime Archie fans, and there are a lot of intriguing insights and ideas there.

The Archie folks are heading to SDCC this week, of course, and their schedule is here, on their excellent Archie News blog.

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Jeff Krell is a natural fit for Archie now that the gay mafia has taken it over. I don’t have a problem with what people do in thier personal relationships, but I wish homosexuals would stop pushing thier agenda in mediums where it is not suitable. Children’s comics for instance.

“The gay mafia has taken it over”? Please – they’ve introduced one gay character into a cast of how many? That’s a baby-step, far from a takeover.

While you’re entitled to your own views (and prejudices), the rest of the world is going to keep moving forward whether you like it or not. The times when gay people were pressured to stay closeted are over. Whether or not you like it, this is the way things are, and tolerance and understanding of others are essential qualities for children growing up today. And if Archie Comics can help children develop healthy attitiudes towards people of all colours, creeds and sexualities, then that’s something to be commended.

(Also, to comment on the actual topic at hand: This crossover looks insanely cute. I loved the “Little Archie” stories when I was a kid, and I’ve been meaning to give “Tiny Titans” a read, so I might have to pick this up.)

Bry,
Do you believe that a children’s comic is a forum for sexuality? I don’t remember when the last Archie issue about safe sex, or teen pregnancy came out. So if they’re not addressing sexual matters that may effect the majority of thier readers one day, why bring homosexuality into it? Discussions of sexual preference don’t belong in Archie comics.

Wow, Mike, you are one obnoxious bigot. What sex is being shown in Archie comics? What about teenagers that read Archies?

We see heterosexual depictions all of the time, so why not some reasonable level of other human relationships. ESPECIALLY for those people who are learning of life variants, which my affect themselves or their friends.

I’m sorry that you are such a hater….

Archie comics are loaded with “sexuality” and “discussions of sexual preference”: Archie’s pursuit of Betty, Archie’s pursuit of Veronica, Veronica’s dates with Reggie, Betty’s dates with Reggie, Jason’s flirtation with Betty, Archie’s romance with Valerie, Big Ethel’s pursuit of Jughead, Moose’s possessiveness of Midge, etc., etc.

Without “sexuality” and “sexual matters,” the Archie titles would have to rely on stories about Jughead’s food obsession (which can probably be argued as a substitute for … something else). No one seems to have a problem with that sexuality. It’s only the hint of homosexuality that has some decrying nefarious “agendas” and worrying about the children.

I would hardly call Archies pursuit of Veronica loaded with sexuality, it’s nothing your average kid would raise an eyebrow at. However, once you introduce a gay character his sexual preference becomes an issue the characters have to address. Maybe Archie’s parents are swingers, or Mr. Weatherbee is into whips and chains, we’ll never know, we don’t need to. The only difference between myself and a gay person is what we choose to do in the bedroom, and it should remain private.
Like it or not, being gay is not normal, and most kids find it strange and repulsive or confusing. I think it should be discussed in a sex-ed class at an age appropriate time, and that tolerance of people that are physically or otherwise different is something that should be encouraged. I’m not a hater, just a guy with an opinion, so spare me the name-calling.

“I would hardly call Archies pursuit of Veronica loaded with sexuality …”

It’s all about sexual attraction, so sure.

“However, once you introduce a gay character his sexual preference becomes an issue the characters have to address.”

By saying, “Some boys like other boys, and some girls like other girls. The end.” It doesn’t need to go any further than explaining Archie’s attraction to Valerie, or Moose’s obsession with Midge.

“Maybe Archie’s parents are swingers, or Mr. Weatherbee is into whips and chains, we’ll never know, we don’t need to. The only difference between myself and a gay person is what we choose to do in the bedroom, and it should remain private.”

Why is it that the relationship between Archie and Valerie or Veronica and Reggie doesn’t make you leap to “swingers” and “whips and chains”? Why is that ridiculous “slippery slope” only introduced when discussing gay characters? The narrative progression isn’t (a.) introduce gay character and then (b.) show him and another boy going at it like rabid ferrets in the park bushes. If the Archie-Betty relationship doesn’t progress to “b” in the wholesome world of Riverdale, then why is it expected that’s where they gay character(s) will end up?

“Like it or not, being gay is not normal, and most kids find it strange and repulsive or confusing.”

You may be projecting. I’m not sure that homosexuality in the abstract — again, “Some boys like other boys, and some girls like other girls” — is all that “strange and repulsive or confusing” to most kids. It’s the adults who tend to obsess over the ins and outs of it, so to speak.

Namecalling? Yes, I did, after your silliness about a ‘gay mafia’. I don’t want you to let out the big secret that gay people are taking over the world by demanding equal treatment and acceptance…. (We can’t let anybody know about these irrational demands….)

One could call Jughead’s obsession with getting Archie away from icky women an uncomfortable realm of latent homosexuality, if they looked hard enough. Fortunately, immature minds are unlikely to pick up on this uncomfortable interpretation, which makes it a perfect for kids. (who are its targeted audience)

I’m sure there would be some Yaoi Dojinshi in Japan exploring this risique field, but since the Archie equivalent in Japan (Urusei Yatsura – Lum) is more known there, why bother?

It’s amazing how some people hear the word “gay” and start lumping it in with “agendas” and acts of sexual violence , rape, etc. It’s about tolerence and acceptance, hands down. And those are family values, like it or not. I can’t tell you how many gay ( and straight) people have come up to me and told me how much this means to them, as well as parents of gay kids who feel good that the world of Riverdale is an inclusive place . Oh and then there’s the 99% of straight people who cherish their gay family members and friends , and are happy to see that they exist in the world of Riverdale too. As far as the gay mafia goes, Ellen Degeneres and Elton John aren’t sending any bags of cash my way, so until they do….

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