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DC’s Flashpoint: An ‘epic five issue series’ with 15 miniseries ‘expanding on the events’ [UPDATED]

Flashpoint

After teasing it a couple of weeks ago, DC Comics revealed some additional details about their upcoming Flashpoint event. A post on their Source blog today — Flashpoint Friday — revealed a few more details about the project.

The main story will be told in a five-issue series by Geoff Johns, Andy Kubert and Sandra Hope, “one with a scope so big and ambitious,” the Source’s David Hyde said, that there will be 15 miniseries “expanding on the events, along with several important one shots.”

Hyde also promised that the titles of 14 of the 15 miniseries would be revealed on The Source later today. I can only hazard a guess at this point, but based on the teasers we’ve seen that hinted at changed histories for DC’s big guns, maybe they’ve opted to cover the side stories of those changes in separate miniseries versus, say, running those stories in the actual ongoing titles. So the story of Bruce Wayne running his casinos would be told in a miniseries rather than in Batman or Detective, and fans of those books who aren’t interested in Flashpoint wouldn’t miss out on the regular adventures of Batman. Of course, there’s always the chance they could be doing both, and that prospect kind of scares my pocketbook. But hopefully we’ll find out soon enough.

I’ll update this post as the titles are revealed.

Update: And here’s the list of titles, which are grouped into “families”:

Flashpoint

Whatever Happened to Gotham City?

FLASHPOINT: BATMAN KNIGHT OF VENGEANCE #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: DEADMAN AND THE FLYING GRAYSONS #1-#3

Whatever Happened to the World’s Greatest Super Villains?

FLASHPOINT: CITIZEN COLD #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: DEATHSTROKE & THE CURSE OF THE RAVAGER #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: THE OUTSIDER #1-#3

Whatever Happened to the Aliens?

FLASHPOINT: ABIN SUR THE GREEN LANTERN #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: PROJECT: SUPERMAN #1-#3

Whatever Happened to Science & Magic?

FLASHPOINT: FRANKENSTEIN & THE CREATURES OF THE UNKNOWN #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: SECRET SEVEN #1-#3

Whatever Happened to Europe?

FLASHPOINT: EMPEROR AQUAMAN #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: WONDER WOMAN AND THE FURIES #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: LOIS LANE AND THE RESISTANCE #1-#3

Everything You Know Will Change in a Flash

FLASHPOINT: KID FLASH LOST #1-#3
FLASHPOINT: THE WORLD OF FLASHPOINT #1-#3

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There are pros and cons to this. I’m glad that this isn’t going to step on the toes of current titles like Action Comics or Detective Comics, of course. I’m also bummed that I’m going to have to pay for 15 other mini-series. Well, I guess they may all be like 2 issues though, in which case I’m fine with it.

My guess is that these mini-series will replace the ongoing series, a la Age of Apocalypse back in the day over at Marvel.

@Greg I hope not. I don’t the comics I read to be interrupted by something I don’t care about.

…15 mini-series?

FIFTEEN mini-series?!

Let’s see…fifteen mini-series, probably three issues each, at an average of $3.50 each issue (ranging from $2 to $3)…roughly $157.50 to follow all of those miniseries. Plus whatever the one-shots are (probably $4 or $5 each), plus the main Flashpoint miniseries which will probably be $4 an issue.

Wow. Just…wow.

But remember, DC is “holding the line at $2.99.” So unless any of these are oversized issues, I think we’re safe in assuming each one will be $2.99.

Which still adds up to a lot, I should add. :)

Joe G, you forget

Drawing the Line at 2.99!!!

These will all be 3 bucks unless they extra-sized.

Since I am not a Flash fan, I may check these out in the more affordable trades from Amazon.

Is the speed force able to change history?

” I’m also bummed that I’m going to have to pay for 15 other mini-series.”

You have to? Is someone putting a gun to your head?

You’re right, I did forget about the $2.99 drawn line. Does anyone know if that applies to everything they publish or just monthly titles?

When I did my math I was presuming that the one-shots would be oversized, and I based the price of the main mini-series on the fact that Blackest Night was $4 an issue. If everything does come out at $3 an issue then that’s still a lot of money ($135 estimated for the spin-off minis, plus the one-shots and the main series), but not as bad as I originally thought.

And @Trey, the speed force can’t change history, but the Reverse-Flash can for some reason.

Fifteen mini-series! Plus one-shots! Plus the main series!

Zoroaster in lingerie!

15 miniseries just makes me want to read the main book, maybe a mini or two about characters I already follow anyway…..AND IGNORE THE REST.

And to the person who “has to” buy all 15 miniseries…….you sir are an idiot.

That’s bullshit, out of these 15 miniseries how many of them will actually be worth reading/paying money for. 15 miniseries just seems like such a cynical attempt to milk as many $ out of people’s pockets as possible.

Fifteen Elseworlds titles! And that’s why Dan Didio said Elseworlds was a dead concept or something like that a few years ago….

“And to the person who “has to” buy all 15 miniseries…….you sir are an idiot.” Or friggin’ rich.

I say I’ll have to wait til the list of the mini’s and one shots involved are announced to make up my mind on what I will spend my money on. And I guess we won’t get that til next month right?

Maybe they’ll undo the new “grim & gritty” origin of the Flash???

FLASHPOINT: THE OUTSIDER #1-#3 – Will Didio and Giffen still be the creative team? If so, then I am on board. I love The Outsiders.

I think I’ve already read this. It was called HOUSE OF M.

15 miniseries, huh? 15? Well, that ought to make some of the DC fanboys speechless for a few minutes.

For the record, I checked the release on ‘Drawing the Line at $2.99′, and it only applies to ongoing titles, not mini-series. I fully expect each of these miniseries to be $3.99 each. I also expect them to be completely skippable.

Has anyone else noted to theme of “Whatever happened to,” as in “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?” It certainly does make it sound like an “Elseworlds” type project. Maybe this is is all about alternate futures, like Armegeddon. Maybe. Who knows.

@Wesley

Alan Moore…it all converges to Alan Moore.

Bankruptcy…is hanging over me…

Lessee… 20-22 pages of story per issue, three issues per mini-series… 66 pages, 96 if we assume a 32-page comicbook. So why not issue these side series as 100-page giants, like the Annuals from Armageddon 2001?

Oh. I see. Another Elseworlds miniseries. The last one was spoiled by readers who figured out the ending, forcing DC to change the ending. I guess they do not wish to revisit that.

That is clever for DC to group those series together… they can be collected into trade editions with a decent number of pages.

I hope Kubert can maintain the schedule… he was a bit late on “Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?”

Now that I see them grouped into their families I’m not overly worried. I’m just going to pick up the titles that interest me (Green Lantern, Kid Flash, World of Flashpoint, superman. batman). So probably just half of them. A lot of the titles don’t interest me or I’ve never read them so it wouldn’t make much sense to grab them now.

Granted this has been in the works for a while and looking at that image absent of context it only takes a minute or so to figure out the context, to get a handle on this event.

But was today the day to announce what looks like a timeline-changing superhero comic with the line “The Spaceship Never Crashed?”

Even announcements like this take a while to plan and stage and crud, nobody….checked ahead? Or did they go through with it anyway? Am I the only person seeing eyebrows raised at his local store?

Hey, here’s a crazy thought– why don’t you just buy the ones from the creators you like? Or none at all, if you so desire?

That image was actually released two weeks ago, DCD, along with a bunch of others with a similar theme … I was reusing it when I wrote my post. But it’s a good point, so I’ve switched it out for a generic Flashpoint logo.

Whatever happened to publishing non-event comics?

Whatever happened to publishing non-event comics?

Someone noticed that the Wednesday crowd isn’t buying them.

Rhetorical question Rich. RTA.

The trouble with crossovers is that it’s hard to tell what’s “essential” reading and what’s not. It can be pretty deceptive as to whether a reader *needs* to only buy the core title, whether the tie-ins are necessary or expanded reading, and whether any books outside the core title complete the story.

Some examples from the 90s: If you read DC’s “Underworld Unleashed,” you arguably could stick with the main 3-issue story. However, there was a one-shot involving Alan Scott which was a pretty significant tie-in to the final issue of the main title, and Alan’s appearance in #3 didn’t make much sense unless you had that issue. The fact that it was collected in the UU paperback reflected its importance. The same thing happened with “The Final Night”: there was a Hal Jordan/Parallax one-shot which explained certain events in the last two issues; again, this book was important enough to make the collected edition.

Or, does anyone remember DC One Million? Reading the four-issue mini by itself was painfully insufficient. Off the top of my head, you *had* to read the JLA, Starman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and all of the Superman books *at a minimum* to make complete sense of the main title. Oy.

I didn’t even touch “Final Crisis.” My understanding is that the main series is insufficient, and you needed to get Superman Beyond and at least one other special to get the full story.

“Blackest Night” was, I think, a little cleaner. I felt like you could get by on just the main series and not be too confused. Reading the Green Lantern main title helped enhance the story, but I didn’t feel like I was missing anything if I hadn’t. (OTOH, if you read “Green Lantern” without BN, you’d be hopelessly lost.)

I don’t blame readers for being skeptical at this point. We’ll have to take a wait-and-see approach and see whether the core “Flashpoint” title is enough, or if we’ll be held hostage by the 15 other titles.

Just once I would really like to see Marvel or DC try and sell an event on the merits of something other than the pretense of change. Maybe stop using the word epic too… but that might be far too much to even dream of.

DC’s stable of creators is far too small for the company to pull off such an extensive line of event tie-ins. Quite frankly, I expect a lot of these books to look rushed and/or subpar, with writing by basically competent but utterly unexciting guys like Tomasi, Krul and Wallace. A whole mess of these miniseries are going to end up cluttering the back-issue bins in six months time, mark my words.

The question now is, “Which Earth is the Flashpoint universe?”. I’m guessing somewhere between Earth-40 and 50.

@Greg This is probably what DC is using to compete with Marvel’s Age of X and Fear Itself. I mean, it’s DEFINITELY the only event they’re using this year.

Beats the hell out of derailing the ongoings. To my mind, this is pretty much the ideal setup for a comics event. The minis will generate a ton of revenue from the people who need to have the complete story, while more selective readers have a wide variety from which to pick and choose. If the monthlies are not to be touched, then there’s nothing to complain about, people. If you wind up buying a lot of crappy books out of compulsion, realize that you only have yourself to blame.

Everything will change in a Flash, huh?

What about the price?

How little we suspected at the time, huh?

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