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Flashpoint #2 variant cover
Ouch. Above is the variant cover to Flashpoint #2 by Ivan Reis and George Perez. I wonder where the rest of Mera could be … maybe in a refrigerator?
DC just can’t win, huh? No matter what they do someone will be upset somewhere.
I guess it’s always been like that though, right? Even before we were pounding that refrigerator joke into the ground.
Homage to Crime SuspenStories #22, or just in bad taste?
Doesn’t help the claim that DC is obsessed with exploiting brutal violence against women.
They can talk the talk, but they can’t walk the walk. Sales will continue to plummet.
Just remind yourself people: This is an alternate universe and all the stuff they do here probably won’t affect the main universe… you know, besides rebooting everything… um… huh.
Aren´t “women in refrigerators” female characters that are introduced solely so they can be killed?
If Mera is a big character in Flashpoint, does that still apply?
Austin: What do you mean by any of that? You said nothing there and what’s most upsetting about that is you say DC can’t win and no matter what they do people wlll be upset and you’re saying this about a cover that depicts the decapitation of a woman? And it surprises you people could be upset because …?
I don’t know why this bothers me but it does. Since the entire line is being rebooted, I guess all bets are off.
Ah, clearly Wonder Woman is not a villain in this story. I totally see what the writers were saying.
I think it’s supposed to be an homage to Clash of the Titans, with Perseus holding up the head of Medusa, but still…
… eh. Not liking it. Still not picking up Flashpoint.
I Believe it is an homage to that one old comic in the DC horror line ages ago that was used as evidence as to why comics are bad for kids. I can’t remember the title though.
On another note, why are people bitching? You all must be sad people.
That’s a pretty poor CrimeSuspenStories homage, and it was EC MattyB.
“Austin: What do you mean by any of that? You said nothing there and what’s most upsetting about that is you say DC can’t win and no matter what they do people wlll be upset and you’re saying this about a cover that depicts the decapitation of a woman? And it surprises you people could be upset because …?”
My point was that the internet is in upheaval right now regarding the reboot/day-and-date digital releases, specifically referring to the negative reactions the company is garnering, and that DC has given plenty of people the opportunity to believe it’s “cool” to hate them right now. After thinking this, I realized it’s mostly always been that way, not only with DC, but with Marvel as well.
This cover – which is completely capable of upsetting someone – seems to be one more thing to focus on negatively. That’s fine. It depicts a decapitated woman, I get it. I am in no way surprised by feelings of discomfort or repulsion.
It does not surprise me that DC would want to bring in new readers. Maybe I should’ve typed all of this before, but I didn’t have you to help me. Thanks!
What the fuck is wrong with Geoff Johns?
Nothing, what i’d like to know is what is wrong with comic fans that has turned them into a whinny and oversensetive bunch of crybabies over these past few years?.
As usual count me in on the group of fans who doesn’t look for things that aren’t there in my comics and takes things like this for what they are, but i’m sure it won’t take long for someone on some website to rant against DC. Reaching to make all sorts of ridiculous claims and grasping at straws for things that prove their hypothesis, this is even sillier than the Flashpoint Map nonsense seriously some of you need to find new hobbies.
I know there are other things on that cover that deserve attantion, but I can’t stop staring at that awesome Wonder Woman symbol.
Man, that doesn’t hold a candle to Crime SuspenStories #22. Johnny Craig’s composition doesn’t actually show a decapitated body. Look at it again and you’ll see the body on the floor and the head’s neck both dip below the cover’s edge so you can’t be sure the head belongs to the body. And the ax is dripping with a black splattered substance but you can’t be sure it’s blood. All the horror is put together in your head and not stated in the image. Craig makes you complicit in the murder of that woman.
This cover has no art or craft, just Wonder Woman and a decapitated head.
@EJ: You must be new to the comics scene. I’m pretty sure comics fans especially have always been whiny and oversensitive.
Not in this case, though. If you think that we’re being whiny and oversensitive here, you’ve been hanging out at all the right message boards and forums.
Mera is dead, Superman is potentially getting together with Wonder Woman …. this clearly opens the door for Aquaman hooking up with Lois Lane. Unless Grayson gets there first since the guy will apparently hit anything in a skirt.
I think the key word here is ALTERNATE cover.
I’d say it’s more a tribute to Caravaggio’s David with the Head of Goliath. And meta critique aside, I’m not buying anything with that cover.
I love all of this. Mostly because of how angry it seems to be making people. All the schadenfreude you can eat.
“@EJ: You must be new to the comics scene. I’m pretty sure comics fans especially have always been whiny and oversensitive.
Not in this case, though. If you think that we’re being whiny and oversensitive here, you’ve been hanging out at all the right message boards and forums.”
My comment was more in general, I visit tons of blogs, mb’s and sites and sometimes they all blend in together with how much bs I read and hear. It seems that there is just a section of the fanbase that wants to look for things that aren’t there and want to use examples like that cover for their own ridiculous crusades. The most messed up thing is that they basically make people deaf to any real concerns with the topics that they supposedly care about because it’s like the boy who cried wolfe, you keep screaming racism and sexism at every turn you lose all credibility on the subjects.
To paraphrase Gaines: it would only be in bad taste if the head was a little higher and we could see blood dripping down. The cover as it is is very tasteful.
Everyone knows DC Comics is in deep and desperate need of new readers. It’s the whole point of their line wide relaunch.
Who do they think this turd of a cover will appeal to?
Oh, its the retailer incentive cover, the one new readers ‘won’t’ see. So, it’s for the regular readers, the ones they no longer want to appeal to anymore.
And if that’s the case, take a bow.
PS. If publishers truly want to know why they have such a hard time gaining new readers, take a good look at that cover, there’s your answer. Truly, it’s a shame stupidity can’t be converted to a usuable energy resource.
DC Comics would rule the world.
I-I… umm…. I kinda… umm… I like it.
What bothers me about this is that it’s more proof of Johns obsession with death – and since he’s now in control of the DC Universe, we’ll continue to see this stuff even after the big post-Flashpoint reboot.
I think is great!!
WW is always shown as sweet and virtuous and holy
It was about damn time she got a dark treatment and showed how ferocious she can really be.
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