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DC’s A-list heroes to form ‘heart’ of relaunched Justice League

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Even as filming begins on The Dark Knight Rises and production gears up for Man of Steel, DC Comics appears poised to transform a relaunched Justice League into its flagship title.

The new series, by superstar creators (and DC executives) Geoff Johns and Jim Lee, kicks off a sweeping editorial shakeup that sees the publisher restarting its entire superhero line in September with 52 No. 1 issues that will introduce “a more modern, diverse DC Universe,” with many characters sporting changed origins, ages and costumes. It also marks the beginning of same-day digital release for all DC Universe books.

As Comic Book Resources reported late yesterday, the 52 titles are believed to include Superman by Grant Morrison, Hawkman by James Robinson and Philip Tan, Birds of Prey by a writer other than Gail Simone, Green Lantern by Johns, Teen Titans by Fabian Nicieza, Justice Society of America, Wonder Woman that bears little resemblance to J. Michael Straczynski’s truncated run, and the previously announced Aquaman by Johns and Ivan Reis. We can likely add to the list the delayed Batwoman by J.H. Williams III, W. Haden Blackman and Amy Reeder (both because the series has been in production for a long time and because DC is reaffirming its commitment to diversity with such characters as Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle, Cyborg and Kate Kane).

But leading the charge is Justice League — no “of America” this time, just Justice League — a title that will feature, at its core, DC’s A-list superheroes: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Aquaman. The team roster, USA Today reports, will ultimately boast 14 members — judging from the cover of the first issue, Cyborg, and not Martian Manhunter, will round out the traditional Big Seven — but the focus will be on those iconic characters. Now with their flipped-up collars, new ‘dos and revamped origins.

“The approach is very much about who they are behind the masks and how they interact together and how these personalities mix,” Johns told the newspaper. “With the world’s greatest superheroes, how does that team actually work? Do they all get along? Being able to pull together and see how that relationship is forged and continues to grow has to be at the heart of that book.”

Cyborg, who was very briefly a team member in the current Justice League of America, will apparently play a key role in the relaunched series. “He’s a character I really see as the modern-day, 21st-century superhero,” Johns said. “He represents all of us in a lot of ways. If we have a cellphone and we’re texting on it, we are a cyborg — that’s what a cyborg is, using technology as an extension of ourselves.”

That appeared to be reinforced on Twitter by Lee, who listed the redesigned Cyborg among his favorite characters to draw.

Given Lee’s schedule and track record, doubts immediately surfaced online as to whether the artist can maintain a monthly title. However, Lee seemed to address those questions late yesterday with a tweet: ‘Justice League was my favorite book as a DC Comics fan-fave era was the 100 pagers for .60cents w/art by Dick Dillin. I won’t f*#k this up.”

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I am still hoping for Justice League International, as promised by Batman at the end of JL:Generation Lost.

I can’t understand why geoff Johns thinks Cyborg is the new 21st century character.I always thought he was the lamest of the lame and nothing geoff can do will change that.He looks ridiculous and even Steel was better than him.I stopped reading the titans when he came in.It’s a bit weird actually-I love what geoff has done for the Rogues gallery/GL/Hawkman/etc. , but he has done equally laughable things like Miss Martian/Cyborg/Bart Flash/Star spangled girl/etc.-these are all for little kids and they don’t belong in the big DC universe as far as I’m concerned.The final insult is putting Vic baby in the JLA in place of Jonzz-not for me thanks.Sooner or later Geoff is going to lose it and Cyborg is his first big step in my opinion.Is it Grant Morrison or Alan Grant who said you can make any character great by good writing – well,not in Cyborgs case.Crap charcter/crap costume.Oh yes,good luck to DC in September-you’ll need it

Cyborg getting this kind of spot has me torn. I stated that Flashpoint’s use of Cyborg as the Big Deal super hero, the ‘superman’ in world without a Superman has me..intrigued. But I hate the redesign in that book AND here. It’s frustrating. Vic Stone’s original design was nearly perfect. Way ahead of it’s time with it’s practically seamless integration of technology. Every artist after has sought to mechanize Cyborg, make him look LESS human. Which…misses the gorramed point.

Of course, they’re changing Superman and Batman’s designs, too, which shows you just how clueless they are.

I feel very conflicted here, I like Johns and Lee’s work but I think they’re in over their heads. They don’t get it. Fresh and New and Monthly is not what anyone wants. It’s like a PG-13 horror movie. Yes, it can be done well, but most of the time it isn’t.

The format, but the form, is part of the problem. People don’t take a floppy little overpriced advertising filled magazine seriously. They think of it as what it has always been thought of: disposable. But you can’t have expensive AND disposable. $3 for disposable is EXPENSIVE. That’s about half the cost of a paperback novel, with no insulting ads, and about 100 times the story.

But $10-$15 for a 100 pages of Superman story every other month, without ads, in a sturdy format people might buy that. Alternate it with a Batman GN every other month. A Wonder Woman every quarter, a Teen Titans every six months, a big 200 page Justice League book once a year.

Online readers? Page a day. Monday is Batman, Tuesday is Superman, etc. Or maybe the first week is Batman, second week Superman. Third week rotates something else in, etc.

I simply think that they missed an opportunity. They’re sticking to a format that has always left comic books considered disposable entertainment. Nerds save magazines. Most people throw out their magazines after they’ve read them.

Comic books are a smaller version of the same format. The reason Golden Age and Silver Age comics are so expensive despite having sold as much as 100 times as many issues as they do now, is that most of those comics got THROWN AWAY. Millions of people bought comics every month. Most of them threw the comics away.

The publishers keep trying to convince people to buy a disposable format that has priced itself out of the market.

It’s simply dumb. “We know you’re gonna throw this away, but we’re charging you a lot for something filled with ads, which are supposed to make these things affordable, but haven’t in decades! Come on, we’re fresh and new!”

Make the comics $1 and it might work. But they can’t.

Fabian Nicieza on Teen Titans? That could be good. (Now, if only Mark Bagley or Darick Robertson were available… We’d have the New Warriors band back together.)

Guess we can be glad from looking at that “updated” character art that they didn’t bring in Rob Liefeld

“Fresh and New and Monthly is not what anyone wants. ”

This seems, to me, one of those instances where “”is not” was substituted for “may not be”, and “anyone” was accidentally used instead of “some people” OR “most people”.

DC is really starting to alienate its core customers for a small pop in monthly sales. I have been a solid DC collector for almost 35 years, through the good and bad, but this is really becoming too much. A major crisis every other month, screwing around with characters that have nothing wrong with them that a decent comic writer could not fix. I am sure that within a year or less, all of this will be resolved as a ‘SURPRISE, THIS ALL IS HAPPENING ON EARTH AS WE WILL SEE IN CRISIS ” Unless, hopefully, Flashpoint actually restores the multiverse to its rightful existence and books like the JSA actually take place on Earth-2, an upcoming Shazam book takes place on Earth-5, and this…….line, takes place on the revised Earth-1 or Earth-Prime, yeah, right. Well, floppies were getting expensive anyway, viva la Trades!

The main reason for Superman’s new look comes from losing half the rights to Jerry Siegel Joe Shuster in court. There will be a new origin for Superman. Courts ruled DC lost rights to origin of Superman and costume. Everything in Action comics #1 no longer is owned by DC/ Warner and the rest of the rights will be gone in 2033. Warner had every chance in the world to pay the price and move on with a great character but instead gave millions to lawyers fighting to give nothing. I believe from following the court and seeing that the rights and the origin of Superman is owned by Siegel and Shuster Marvel/ Disney will pick this up in 2013 when the court ruling goes into effect. There is no other company with the money to purchase the rights to this Icon but Disney, remember how much the mouse spent to own Marvel. So truth, justice and the American way will still be around DC will have this new Superman new name not Clark Kent no Lois Lane as to how much will remain is to be seen but from this picture I say not much of the original. Would have been earier to pay and keep your biggest trademark alive but you made one of the biggest fumbles in comic book history.

Hmmm, something got edited out of my post, it was supposed to read,,,,,all of this will resolved as a “SURPRISE, THIS ALL IS HAPPENING ON EARTH (insert number here) AS WE WILL SEE IN CRISIS (insert number or catchy title here)”….. Did not want to sound like too much of a goof. :)

@Arrowshaft, Can you provide a link to where that story is published or what publication it is in? I would be very interested in reading that as I had not heard the Court rendered an opinion on the appeal of the complaint.

I like how the big initial announcement stating “more diversity” had that Justice League picture zoomed in on 4 white people (Superman, WW, Aquaman, GL). Then when they zoom it out for the main announcement…there is one black guy…and two more white guys. Morrison’s original relaunched Justice League was more diverse than this..and even then calling it diverse is laughable. Jon Stewart GL and Martian Manhunter…now we have Hal back as GL and Cyborg replacing Manhunter.
Maybe they’ll add Vixen to the mix. She’s a WOMAN…of COLOUR! Double whammy.

Here is one of many stories out there on this case this from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/business/media/29comics.html part of article from movienews
It all began back in 2008 and 2009 when a series of rulings were handed down by U.S. District Judge Stephen Larson. Larson “ruled that Siegel’s heirs had successfully reclaimed their share of the copyright to Action Comics No. 1, which marked Superman’s 1938 debut; Action Comics No. 4; and other early depictions of the character and storyline. (Shuster’s heirs are on a separate timeline that begins in 2013). Larson was acting on a provision of the 1976 Copyright Act that allows authors to regain the copyrights to their creations after a certain period of time, subject to a series of intricate conditions.”

Like most legal battles over properties of this stature, it’s a complicated matter, but Variety has detailed the original ruling as follows:

In a recent article published in the Columbia Journal of the Law & the Arts, Anthony Cheng writes that 7th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner’s decision in Neil Gaiman’s suit against Todd McFarlane “could provide the rationale for both parties to continue legally exploiting” Superman. Posner determined that Gaiman’s “Medieval Spawn” was “sufficiently distinct” to justify a separate character copyright from the original Spawn.

Along this line of reasoning, one way to settle the Superman dispute would be to “split the character in two — a 1938 Superman and a Modern Superman — and allow both sides to create new works based on their versions,” Cheng writes.

Moreover, because both sides would independently be exploiting their respective versions of the Man of Steel, they wouldn’t have to go through the tricky work of accounting for each others’ profits. They’d own what they own. One downside, though, Cheng writes, is that DC would have the more valuable version of the character, given the length of time it has been transforming Man of Steel projects into popular culture.

The other, more obvious, option is that all parties come together. But that’s no easy feat. The heirs’ attorney, Marc Toberoff, is appealing Larson’s decision to the 9th Circuit to get a more definitive ruling on who owns what, while DC is proceeding with its suit against Toberoff, charging that he has poisoned their relationship with the Siegels and Shusters.

Amid all the acrimony, it’s easy to forget the original intent of the “rights termination” clause of the Copyright Act: to give authors another opportunity to share in the rewards of their creations, not to parcel them out in bits and pieces.

Larson’s point wasn’t to parcel out the rights but to compel everyone to come to the same table for potentially mutual benefit. As he wrote in one ruling, Superman is an “aggregate whole,” not “a red cape here, a particular villain there.”

What does that mean for Zack Snyder’s new Superman reboot? Shortly after the director was hired to helm Man of Steel, there was speculation that one of the main reasons he’d landed the gig was that Warner Bros believed he’d be able to complete the film so that the studio could release it with minimal turnaround time. And while this shouldn’t be a problem, the fate of future films, not to mention the character’s larger integrity, is obviously being called into question.

In 2013, DC could move forward with the Superman projects it has already made, but under the Copyright Act, the company could not create new “derivative” works based on Action Comics No. 1 and other properties held by the heirs. More sequels though, would add up to more legal roadblocks.

Just google or bing Superman court or rights even the creators name you will find this has been a very long battle and look where it has taken Superman.

another part
This means the Siegels — repped by Marc Toberoff of Toberoff & Associates — now control depictions of Superman’s origins from the planet Krypton, his parents Jor-El and Lora, Superman as the infant Kal-El, the launching of the infant Superman into space by his parents as Krypton explodes and his landing on Earth in a fiery crash.

The first Superman story was published in 1938 in Action Comics No. 1. For $130, Jerry Siegel and co-creator Joel Shuster signed a release in favor of DC’s predecessor, Detective Comics, and a 1974 court decision ruled they signed away their copyrights forever.

In 2008, the same court order ruled on summary judgment that the Siegels had successfully recaptured (as of 1999) Siegel’s copyright in Action Comics No. 1, giving them rights to the Superman character, including his costume, his alter-ego as reporter Clark Kent, the feisty reporter Lois Lane, their jobs at the Daily Planet newspaper working for a gruff editor, and the love triangle among Clark/Superman and Lois.

While ownership of the Man of Steel is one point of all this legal activity, the real issue is money and how much Warner Bros. and DC owe the Siegels from profits they collected from Superman since 1999, when the heirs’ recapture of Siegel’s copyright became effective.

DC owns other elements like Superman’s ability to fly, the term kryptonite, the Lex Luthor and Jimmy Olsen characters, Superman’s powers and expanded origins.

In a statement, Warner Bros. and DC said, “Warner and DC Comics are pleased that the court has affirmed that the vast majority of key elements associated with the Superman character that were developed after Action Comics No. 1 are not part of the copyrights that the plaintiffs have recaptured and therefore remain solely owned by DC Comics.”

The Shuster estate originally did not participate with the Siegels’ case because Shuster has no spouse or children. But his estate later won a ruling of a recapture identical to the Siegels, which will be effective in 2013. At that point, the Siegels and Shusters will own the entire copyright to Action Comics No. 1. That will give them the chance to set up Superman pics, TV shows and other projects at another studio.

If they want to get a new “Superman” or even “Justice League” pic featuring the superhero, Warner Bros. and DC will be forced to go into production by 2011.

Monthly is dead. It’s stupid. It only causes bitchy fanboys to bitch about ‘lateness’ when what matters is everything but being on an arbitrary schedule. If you want GOOD comics, sometimes you have to WAIT. You want an end to sloppy art and writing that seems, hmm, rushed? End the monthly deadline, give artists and writers a chance to form a work at a natural pace. Some may work faster and do more, some may only do 100 pages a year. But I’d rather see all 100 pages uninterrupted on one project than spread out. You want to end ‘decompression’. You ever read those books in trade form? They’re often better in the format they are written for than in the one they are initially published in.

Marvel sells more comics than DC, most of Marvel’s books do not tell single issue stories regularly, they appear but they are short stories compared to the novel length approach they generally take.

Why publish them in installments? Why not publish them in the final form that supports the style? I simply don’t get it, I suppose it’s double dipping, getting twice the money out of the deal, but really, I think if Marvel or DC pushed their publishing to standalone Graphic Novels they’d see that the original floppy magazine loving audience would have no real choice, if you want your Spider-Man, you’re gonna buy it anyway you can. But to outsiders, it’ll seem, I don’t know, SANE, it’s much easier to follow a series of novels (people do it all the time) or a genre in general when you buy a complete story. Buying shit in installments seems stupid.

Only an idiot says “I’ll pay $3 for 1/6th of a story in a format I don’t much care for, that vaguely insults me with childish advertising and takes up space, wastes paper, and is in general useless since much of it’s content will be reprinted in more logical formats.”

Ditching monthly comics is the first thing any publisher should do to prove they are actually rethinking this dead medium. It’s not dying, it’s DEAD. Comic books (the monthly magazine form) are dead, and more monthly comic books won’t save the form, won’t save the super hero genre in sequential form (because it’s alive and well in movies, the genre itself is not at all in a lurch, it’s the MONTHLY format)

And I’ll say it again: The direct market killed comic books. Your LCS did more harm than good to the comic book as you love it. Truth hurts.

Oh and these conspiracy theories are like all conspiracy theories: Pure idiocy.

Couple things:

I think it’s funny that in this story Wonder Woman “bears little resemblance” to the current version, while on another site they’re saying she’s virtually unchanged from the most recent version, and both are essentially speculating on what’s going on with very little verification from one picture.

I hadn’t heard this about the Siegel/DC case. But it makes sense. It’s felt like DC has been trying to distance itself from the core elements of the character for years: Taking him off-planet, trying to establish possible replacements, downplaying some of the core elements of the Superman mythos since Man of Steel.

I agree with DrunkJack that Cyborg has been badly mishandled since the mid-90s. The most appealing part of Vic Stone was the conflict he had about being trapped in this semi-plastic body. He was very Thing-like in that aspect, and I always saw him as just a step above a street-level guardian. I could have seen him in a title where he protects his neighborhood and doesn’t care about much else. But in the past decade or so he’s become basically a cipher, Having no personality and artists focusing on making him look more like a robot. I think Johns and Lee are completely missing the boat here.

And Lee… I said this elsewhere, but this is… what, his sixth or seventh time heading up a major revision and rebooting of continuity? And I don’t think it’s succeeded once. The single thing that concerns me most about this reboot is his involvement.

And this world shattering shake-up so soon after Final Crisis just smacks of desperation on Didio’s (et al’s) parts. With the way super-hero comics are structured nowadays, a creative team may only stay on a book long enough to finish 3-4 complete storylines before the next major shake-up. That’s just not long enough to establish any sense of continuity or reader connection.

One last thing… I hope that DC decides to take this opportunity to lessen the stranglehold of horizontal continuity . I’ve always wondered why, when the attention span of the average American is getting shorter, DC’s and Marvel’s response was to create MUCH longer, more convoluted storylines that require more investment. I stepped out of monthly collecting around the time of Infinite Crisis because it was just too much and too expensive to keep up with the whole story. And if you can’t read every fifth (ESSENTIAL!) chapter to a story, why read it at all. The one thing that would guarantee me to at least try some of the relaunched titles would be LESS dependency on other titles. If a character or concept can’t stand on it’s own merits, maybe they should give that slot in the publishing schedule to something else.

I’d be more impressed if they were actually going to do a full line reboot (setting aside my crusade against the monthly comic book), and had given us a neat and proper end to the current version of the DCU to move onto another of the 52 versions of the DCU we were told exist.

Imagine good writers given a chance to end all the current DC comics, over a year. Call it One Year Left (or the Last Year), not everyone has to die, but threads are to be tied off, any and all mysteries settled, closure brought to major conflicts, the world left in a place where there may be some stories left to tell, but do everything possible to make it clear there’s no real reason to revisit this version of the DCU. I mean if I was doing it, I’d end it with the vast majority of super heroes and a majority of villains dying to save the universe from some existential threat. Make that a year long separate project. In the end all you have is one lone super hero(a Green Lantern in my head) out to kill off the remaining, psychotic and ultra violent, super baddies. End the project with Joker finally being killed off like the rabid dog he is.

Then restart. Do it boldly. Ditch the legacy heroes, no more multiple versions of Flash, Green Lantern, no Silver Age, no Golden Age.None of that. A truely new age. Start with Superman, Wonder Woman (make her more integral to the DCU, maybe even make her the second super hero to appear) and Batman for six months, then add the rest one a month until the major characters are all in place. Solid creative teams, solid stories, solid art. Six months of introducing the core trinity.

Then after a year or two do Justice League, give the characters time to grow on their own, establish themselves in the world, and then come together. Really make it a clean start.

And I’d include Cyborg near the start, maybe he’s the teenager of the bunch, early Cyborg was an interesting contrast, he was a decent kid with anger issues and a great deal of it focused on himself and his father. You can’t make that kid interesting I’m not sure you’re a quality writer. The convergence of technology and humanity it’s not rocket science, it’s pretty god damned modern and pretty god damned interesting. But you need someone who knows is shit to write it, and someone who can make technology work visually. This is DC’s Iron Man. Not some doof in a damned suit of armor, a guy who is living technology, half man half machine. All ass kicking pissed off Vic Stone out to make something good of a situation he hates.

And if you want to be real bold, make John Stewart the first Earthbound GL with Hal Jordan as the guy who is initially his backup. Just spitballing. Or more boldly a new non-white non-male GL is created for this new world. My first thought is a black female. Johna Stewart.

I think if DC really had balls, if they really thought things needed to be shook up they should have gone all the way. These half measures are foolish and not really bold or fresh. They’re half measures. By definition they cannot be bold and fresh.

Johns, Lee and DiDio failed before they even started because it’s half measures. How can you be bold when you’re already reassuring people that it’s basically the same universe just…different. Don’t worry!

What they should say is “Worry. This is not your daddy’s DCU. Your Daddy’s DCU just died.”

If it’s not half measures and they’re just distracting people with that talk, I might respect this a bit more. But as it stands it sounds like half measures all around and it’s weak sauce bullshit.

I would just like to add that my frustration is more out of disappointment at the seeming timidity of the reboot. I have nothing but hope for the content.

Checking the main CBR page I see Erik Larsen has the same idea I had for the End The Current DCU And Start Anew thing.

I generally dislike Erik Larsen and disagree with him on most things in comics, but it’s a solid idea. Nobody’s done it, ended an entire line of comics with finality to start anew. Even the Ultimate stuff has been half measures with it’s endings. Even the Crisis shift was half measured, and CONFUSING. You still can’t figure out what happened and what didn’t.

A full clean slate would be truly revolutionary. Sadly, the endings here will seem rushed because there’s only 4-5 months worth of build. And it sounds like they are just rejiggering things in the main DCU to look new, a coat of paint, not a whole new structure.

And even the fannish of the fanboys couldn’t look away from such a thing. Even if it ended their relationship with the books, they’d be there reading just to know how it ends.

And if you do it right, they might give the new thing a shot. DC.

But y’know, if it somehow works and tens of thousands of people start buying the new DC I will eat crow, once the shock wears off.
Cause I don’t see it.

DC, I’m sorry, YOU’VE FAILED.

At this point, maybe the comic book industry is better off dead.

Until 1962: .10
1962–1969: .12
1969–1971: .15
1971–1974: .20
1974–1976: .25
1976–1977: .30
1977–1979: .35
1979–1980: .40
1980–1981: .50
1982–1985: .60
1985–1986: .65
1986–1988: .75
1988–1991: 1.00
1992–1995: 1.25
1995–1996: 1.50
1996–1997: 1.95
1997–2000: 1.99
2000–2005: 2.25
2005–2006: 2.50
2006–2010: 2.99 – 3.99

How prices of comic books have changed over the years. The decline in comic book sales is due to prices.
The prices are too high and its killing its own market. Readers are more careful in what they pick up and some wait for the trade paperback. No matter how many reboots you do in any company you will never have the sales of the 80′s or 90′s you have chased away your market. 52 #1 at 3.99 = 207.48 plus tax at todays price if you went to the 1.99 you get 101.40. There is a limit what people will spend on comic books.
Corporations are in this to make as much money as possible, if there is not a increase every year or quarter there is something wrong. You will keep getting reboots from all companies because its now the bottom line how much profit are we making can it transfer to big screen, t.v., toy line it is no longer a reading for fun and it will always stay the same. Court battles that most fans do not know of and if you ever ran a company you know its the bottom line how much can we make and profits. You don’t buy this brand we will remake it until we find the right way you will buy. Fan must look at this and understand its a big business and they are there do make money.

AND constantly create newer characters that appeal to all ages and across all spectrums, that’s what comic book companies are supposed to do besides make money. Marvel was called the “House of Ideas”, but that’s no longer the case anymore. The way I see it, DC and Marvel have abandoned that approach altogether.

They’d be making more of a profit if they didn’t do events every year, freeing up creative talent and saving them a ton on paper, ink, advertising, and human energy. All that time they were planning Flashpoint could have been well spent on a number of things: settling things with the Siegels, increasing creative output, injecting more quality into their television shows, films, or merchandise, among other things. They could’ve increased sales and readership young and old alike if they had done something I came up with a few weeks back:
1. Put recap pages in their books. Makes it a little easier for newer readers to see “the story so far.”
2. Just before and after the opening and ending of one of their movies, they could put up a little disclaimer that says something like “To learn more about the characters depicted in this film, visit your local bookstore or comic retailer, or go online at www.(insert DC or Marvel website).com.” It would actually ENCOURAGE people to find out more about the characters they may or may not necessarily love.
3. Put out more of those “Saga” or “Reading Chronology”-type books so they get the ideas of what the characters have been through. From there, they can decide where to jump into the stories.
4. At a movie screening, do a promotional thing where you get a free “origin” or “Handbook”-style comic with your ticket purchase. They have a starting point because of that.

Those methods would have been WAY better that a company-wide reboot, and they could make some money off of that.

New Superman looks like Conner. Maybe it will be him since they had to change the origin of the original.
No more Clark and Lois.

Wow…And i thought they changed Superman’s appearance just to make him look like Tom Welling from “Smallville”.

Anybody else notice Lee’s already dropped the ball in the art department. Oh well at least Bagley’s off the book. His awful drawing almost gave me an aneurysm.

Y’know, just from a public awareness point of view, Cyborg probably does belong in the Justice League.

After all, aside from John Stewart (who isn’t the star of the movie) and maybe Static (who hasn’t really been published much the last 15 years), he’s one of DC’s most visible black superheroes.

It’s just kind of sad that even after – what, 30 years? – he’s still mostly that guy from the old Super Friends and Teen Titans cartoons.

Y’know? I’ve been reading comments on the interwebs about how this reboot is lame and no new readers will come in and how there are so many other things that could be done besides this reboot by the hardcore fans (yes, if you read these websites and post comments, YOU are one of them) and all I csan say is, after years of trying to hook folks on comics and proudly flying my comic fan flag, I have NEVER heard or had as many folks come up to me and say how cool this is and how it sounds like they will be able to jump in to comics finally.
I have never had anyone ask me where a comic shop is or how they can buy them just out of the blue before this last week.
Never.
Kudos to DC.

You guys should get a new hobby. Im not being disrespectful, it just sounds like you have alot of anger and hate. Time to find a hobby that brings you enjoyment– lifes too short guys.

el_caifan

el_caifan,

I have another hobby. I’m only a part time comic fan. I’m primarily a toy collector and ameteur film buff.

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