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Media decide new Spider-Man also may be gay

From the Drudge Report

As sometimes happens when comic-book story developments become mainstream-media sensations, the official announcement yesterday that Marvel’s new Ultimate Spider-Man is a biracial teen named Miles Morales has turned into a game of Telephone, with information added and dropped as the message goes along.

It didn’t take long for London’s Daily Mail to jump from Spider-Man has a half-black, half-Latino teen to a half-black, half-Latino teen … who “could be gay in the future”: “Fans will have to wait until the official Spider Man relaunch next month to find out how he came to be the superhero. But another surprise could be in the pipeline after his creators said that in the future they would not rule out making him gay.”

As best as I can tell, the sole basis for that is a quote from USA Today in which Ultimate Spider-Man artist Sara Pichelli says, “Maybe sooner or later a black or gay — or both — hero will be considered something absolutely normal.” It’s not exactly the same thing, is it? Doesn’t matter, though, as it’s good enough for Matt Drudge to declare that the Spider-Man “reincarnation” “could be gay.”

For the record, a Marvel spokesman was unambiguous when he confirmed for CBR News that Miles Morales isn’t gay.

Still, a blogger for the gay magazine Instinct is pleased with the possibility, writing that “though my money was on Robin as the first mainstream superhero to come out, I’ll be nothing but in awe if Marvel makes the great webbed one bat, err, spider, for our team!”

Meanwhile, Glenn Beck has weighed in on the new Spider-Man, saying, “Do I care if he’s half-Hispanic, all Hispanic? No. Half-black, half — I really don’t care. Half-gay, all gay, I don’t really care. … I don’t care. It’s a stupid comic book.” However, what he does care about is that … Michelle Obama is somehow — somehow! — behind the “half-black, half-Hispanic gay Spider-Man.”



A gay half Black, half Puerto Rican 13 year old?

Typical of the Daily Mail to jump to such conclusions. Next they’ll be reporting that he’s no doubt an illegal immigrant who claims benefits and steals jobs from “hard-working” regular Americans…”they’ve even stolen Spiderman’s job!”.

*shakes head*

I hope everyone appreciates the irony of comic fans going online and curling their lips at someone else for jumping to unfounded conclusions based on half-formed rumors, offhand quotes, and liberally interpreted speculation.

“Spider-Man: Threat or Menace?”

— MrJM

Colossus was re-written as gay in the Joss Whedon XMen. So Spiderman wouldn’t be the “first mainstream character”.

So I was going to say the media is super stupid having jumped to the whole gay conclusion and then I read the bit with Glen Beck and I’m all just … LMAO … seriously. LMAO … people listen to this guy? LOL It would be cool if he were gay but be organic about it, no? Don’t just out him. They probably will when sales sour or whatever. LOL I hope the book succeeds but I expect Peter Parker will be back before long. Ultimate line or not.

@Tad – Ultimate Colossus was gay, and it wasn’t a rewrite, he was hinted at being gay from issue 1. 616 Colossus, who was in Joss Whedon’s run was so straight he banged the piss out of Kitty Pryde

@Mike – my mistake, it’s been a while since I read that version.

Cole Moore Odell

August 3, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Beck? Drudge? The Daily Mail? Let’s be clear: it’s not “the media” freaking out about this story, it’s quite distinctly the conservative media.

@Tadd – Ultimate Colossus was gay. Joss Whedon wrote Astonishing X-Men, and his Colossus had a quite literal hard-on for Kitty Pryde. …Get it? Because he turns to metal.

Northstar of the X-Men is relatively mainstream for a comic book character, and he’s been out of the closet for a while. The issue with making the DC/Marvel big characters gay is that because of their long histories, where they’ve all been portrayed in very heterosexual manners in the past. A new Spidey could pull it off organically, but I wouldn’t believe a Peter Parker that wasn’t straight as an arrow.

Just to clarify: Matt Drudge did no such reporting. He linked to a story the Daily Mail had written. Blame the Daily Mail. The does very limited reporting. It links to other stories that its curator (and his business partner, who specializes in the entertainment field, as I recall) find of interest.

I don’t see that clarification is required. I wrote that Drudge declared that Spider-Man “could be gay,” which is what he (or his surrogate) did with the headline/link.

If he could web swing from a wheel chair, you could complete the minority trifecta :)

If they made him half-black, half-latino, AND homosexual, they may as well make him Minority-Man! That way they won’t have to make any more characters and he could be on all teams like Wolverine.

Who cares? Who even reads this junk anymore, anyway? It’s just more proof that Marvel is completely out of ideas and is just grasping at straws. The sooner their comics go away for good, the better.

Spider-Man : Threat or Fabulous?

Thanks Augie for posting about what Drudge just reported on what the Daily Mail originally posted. I’m conservative and could care less if MM was gay or not. I’m not going to buy it anyways since it reeks of Marvel grasping at straws to increase sales.

What’s wrong with Marvel creating a black/hispanic Spider-man? Why shouldn’t they try to broaden their readership base beyond the middle-aged WASPS that have been their core audience for the past two + decades?

I suppose DC is pandering for bringing back Ryan Choi as the Atom, or trying to encourage more women be comic creators? The only way the comic industry can survive is to broaden the base of the readership.

Getting back to Miles, however, if the character is only 13 yrs. old, I would leave out the issue of whatever his sexuality is until he’s been around a few years.

Glenn Beck continues to prove he’s the World’s Greatest Moron. I suppose if you’re going to be something you might as well be the best at it.

This whole thing is way more interesting than DC’s parade of shitty new costumes, resurrection of mediocre 90s writers and even more muddied continuity.

Plus, it’s nice to know that Brian Bendis is a better human being than 99.99% of the people who constantly bitch about him.

Grrrr…you know what I would like to do? I would like to put Rush Limbaugh (conservative), Glenn Beck (conservative), Keith Olbermann (liberal), (insert a big liberal spokesperson here), and the co/founder of the Tea Party into one of those wooden things where your head and wrists are trapped (you know, where people then throw tomatoes at you), don a fraternity getup, and, in a reference to The Simpsons episode “Homer the Great”, force them to undergo “Crossing the Desert/The Unblinking Eye/Paddling of the Swollen @$$…with Paddles” while forcing them to say “Thank you sir, may I have another?” a la Animal House–on LIVE TV. I would like to see all the political ideologies’ self-appointed spokespeople humiliated for letting language such as the kind used by Beck be constantly spewed all over the place like vommit at a roller coaster. Anyone who talks the way he does has surrendered their humanity.

They are putting the gay spin on it because…. HELLO! …. having a black lead character isn’t news. We arn’t in the 1950’s anymore. Any really people, hes only going to be a place holder till Peter comes back anyway. I say 2 years max. Thats give them 4 6 issue stories to include him in.

Having a gay male lead WOULD be news however. Seeing as how we are still treated like third class citizens in certain countries/ states. Maybe Marvel should do that for their next media push – because DC certainly don’t have the balls to do it. They took the easy route and gave the Lesbians the 2 leads.

Faust x 10. Don’t get me wrong, Batwoman is A+ but we all know it’s us gay men who really keep Beck up at night.

After seeing fans’ reaction to the Kirby legal decision and the new, biracial Spider-Man, I think it’s fair to say that superhero comics are read by some of the absolute LEAST heroic people on the planet. The sheer scale of this irony is baffling and kind of funny in a tragic way.

@ D. Peace: I only checked out CBR and its blogs, but the reaction to the new Spider-Man seemed to be pretty good. Were there any places where it was overwhelmingly negative? And I mean comic fans reactions, not from the mainstream.

If by “overwhelmingly negative” you mean bigoted and angry, then yes, you’ll find bits of that all over the place. At the Beat, it’s been so bad that Heidi had to close down the thread and delete some comments.

Here’s one that’s still there:

“Political correctness run amok. Kill off whitey. Replace with multiculti. As a white person who has read and loved Spiderman my whole life, I am out. Will no longer buy Spiderman or Marvel.

They could easily have created a new black/hispanic hero if they wanted to but this guy Alonso changing a cultural icon is a FU to white Americans. This is a FU moment to white people.

The proper response of all all white people in America is to boycott Marvel comics. Marvel said FU to white people. So we say to Marvel FU back.”

And more such garbage like that all over… I’m not going to keep posting examples because it literally makes me sick but you get the picture.

@D. Peace
do you mean by non-white mean LEAST heroic?

edge – I have no idea what you’re talking about. I think you worded your sentence incorrectly. To clarify: When I said superhero comics are read by some of the least heroic people, I mean the kind of racists who act offended that the new Spider-Man is not white. It’s disheartening and ironic that comic books that are supposed to represent the best in people are consumed by bigots.


May 9, 2012 at 1:17 am

Superheros are masculine and brave NOT gay! And if you disagree with me read a comic book. I hope it’s not true. I wouldn’t want my kid reading ultimate spider man and then think if spider mans gay I want to be too. Superheroes are role models and that wouldn’t be a good role model. I have nothing against gay people in fact I have a few friends who are gay, but they understand where I’m coming from agree with me. I as well as them believe superheroes should be straight. Let’s keep comics Straight!

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