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Wonder Man’s ‘Revengers’ to take on the Avengers

Revengers

Marvel released a preview for New Avengers Annual #1 by Brian Michael Bendis and Gabriele Dell’Otto yesterday, which features Wonder Man and a new team he’s put together called The Revengers. Avengers readers may remember that when Steve Rogers was putting together the latest iteration of the Avengers, former Avenger Simon Williams, a.k.a. Wonder Man, took issue with the team reforming and turned violent against his former teammates (Mind control?). His new attitude will apparently be addressed in the first New Avengers Annual, where he pops up leading a bunch of C- and D-grade characters, many of whom have some sort of connection to the Avengers.

“I think we are better than them,” he says in the above sequence, comparing his new crew to the Avengers. Which, yeah … it’s either mind control or he’s just gone completely off his rocker due to a power leakage, because he’s assembled quite the collection of losers to get his revenge. Let’s take a look at who he recruited …

D-Man

D-Man: D-Man, short for Demolition Man, is Dennis Dunphy, a former super-powered wrestler who became Captain America’s partner back in the 1980s. There are a lot of things to like about that era of Cap stories, but D-Man wasn’t one of them. He used to wear a hideous costume that looked like Daredevil’s original costume with a Wolverine mask; luckily, it looks like artist Dell’Otto redesigned his look. I think the last time we saw D-Man he was delusional and stealing jewelry, thinking they were the Infinity Gems. As for why he’d be there, maybe he has abandonment issues against Cap?

Anti-Venom: Eddie Brock, formerly the villain Venom, who cleaned up his ways and helped out Spider-Man against Mr. Negative not too long ago in Amazing Spider-Man. He’s never been on great terms with Spider-Man even when he wasn’t trying to kill him, so I’m sure it wasn’t too hard of a sell to get him on board.

Goliath: Goliath looks a lot like Bill Foster, who went under the names Black Goliath, Giant Man and Goliath in the past. He also died during the Civil War miniseries, which means this is probably his nephew Tom, who was shown taking up the mantle circa the World War Hulk storyline. It’s no surprise he’d have a grudge against the Avengers, considering what happened to his uncle at the hands of the Thor clone.

Atlas: I’m kind of surprised to see both Atlas and Goliath here, since they have similar powers. Atlas of course is a former Thunderbolt and former villain, and sported both the names Power Man and Goliath in the past. He has a similar origin to Wonder Man, and I don’t think he’s been seen since he made an appearance in Joe Casey’s The Last Defenders miniseries.

Devil-Slayer: My guess is this is Eric Simon Payne, rather than his great-nephew who appeared in the 2008 MAX miniseries. Devil-Slayer’s a former Defender who wears a cape that lets him teleport and pull out all sorts of weapons, which he uses to slay devils, as his name indicates. His biggest connection to the current Avengers team would be Doctor Strange, but he also was a part of the whole Initiative thing.

Captain Ultra: Just so nobody is confused, we’re talking about this Captain Ultra, and not this one. Captain Ultra is a comedian/superhero who … well, he used to dress like this:

Captain Ultra

If Bendis can make him cool, he will have earned his paycheck.

Century: So it occurs to me that I’ve never actually read a comic featuring Century, a former member of Force Works, the team that was born from the cancellation of West Coast Avengers. And up until I saw him in the above panel, I thought he either died or was revealed to be a bad guy or something.

Ethan Edwards: I looked this guy up because I had no clue who he was. Apparently he’s a skrull with Superman’s origin, having been sent to Earth to conquer it when he was a baby, but he was found by a kindly couple who taught him about great power and great responsibility. He debuted in Marvel Knights Spider-Man and went under the name Virtue for a time.

With the exception of Atlas and Anti-Venom, who have at least been active in the Marvel Universe in the last few years, the team is made up of characters ripe for development, like Edwards and Goliath, or who haven’t been in the spotlight in years (if ever), like Captain Ultra and D-Man. I enjoy these types of scenarios, where a writer like Bendis or Warren Ellis, who did it in Nextwave and Thunderbolts, hits the Marvel salvage yard and puts a new spin on a character you never thought you’d see again or never thought you’d want to see again. So bring on the Revengers … let’s see if Bendis can make them shine.

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Oh, Simon… What have they done to you?

I’m looking forward to this. All of these characters are ripe with story potential. Looking forward to his take on Captain Ultra. Loved his Squirrel Girl-centric Fear Itself issue.

Bendis is scuh-raping the bottom of the barrel here. Marvel must be the most anal-retentive corporation ever. They can’t let go of any characters, no matter how crappy they are. Here’s another case that looks like Corporate dictated that these characters need to be used so Marvel can maintain copyrights.

And if the art was any darker, they could save money by just printing it in black ink. I guess it saves the artist from having to draw eyes.

Now let me say something nice. Even though I don’t care for Bendis’s plots, or his pacing, or that he totally ruined the Avengers for all time, I have to admire his work ethic. Whether one likes his work or not, you have to admit he keeps cranking it out, year after year, work of the same quality, pretty much on time. That has to count for something.

Has there been much lead up to this, I mean has it been an ongoing subplot?
I’m a Wonder Man fan from back in the day, but haven’t followed anything Marvel in ages.
I saw early in the relaunch he turning down the team, and heard/figured something like this was coming.

I might pick it up if this is some kind of self contained story or something runing thru all the Avenger Annuals, so I wanted to know if there’s other issued that’d be important to pick up beforehand.

Also, if this does turn out to be some sort of mind-control thing, I’ll be pretty disappointed.
When Wonder Man first turned down the Avenger’s offer he gave a pretty tough but reasonable opinion, and I’d hope for a somewhat more balanced portrayal of the character and his team–the preview pages look hella smashy-smashy, but fun none the less.

And hey! D-Man! Woohoo! (I love loser characters)

And when the heck and Simon and Hank (Beast) just going to give in and realize they love each other.

Wonder Man is one of my favorite Marvel characters, and seeing whats being done to him by Bendis is as criminal as Morrison’s treatment of Beast. Great characters, great Avengers just casually disrespected at a whim. I know Simon was once a portrayed as a villian but still, Bendis’ Simon had better be under the influence of the Enchantress or it’s just the deconstruction of a hero for deconstructions sake( and I liked the way he handled the Scarlet Witch).

” I think the last time we saw D-Man he was delusional and stealing jewelry, thinking they were the Infinity Gems.”

According to his wikipedia page he was working for the military/Initiative, and then bottomed out as an applicant to be Cage/Jessica Jones baby nanny.
Still having mental problems.

Really?

C’mon, even D-Man deserves better than this. Did no one read that great “hero of the DMZ” short story from the Assistant Editor’s two-shot? I guess I just answered my own question.

@JRC, Yeah, in the first few issues of Avengers. I think that this looks really cool. :)

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO….

they can’t do that with Captain Ultra !!!
I had plans !!!
it should have make of me someone rich and famous, I was going to even surpass Alan Moore (on SWAMP THING) and Grant Morrison (on ALL STAR)….

nnnnnnnoooooooooooooo……..

Very reminiscent of the Dark Avengers setup, hopefully Bendis is bringing something new to the table.

I DO like when characters like this are brought back (Cap UItra was in Iron Man when the Knaufs were writing), but I really have issue with writers/editors mining the history books for cannon fodder or characters they know NOTHING about, which results in bad characterization. Case in point is Atlas, who, having mainly appeared in TBolts, had real depth. Not to say he won’t here, but if his appearance in the preview is the best we get from him, I’ll be sad. Century is a real gem for me, even though no one seems to like him much. His one-shot back in the day is just one of those comics that would be one of the last in my collection to be sold off. Seriously. Heck an example of what this issue could turn out like would be the last book done by this team, Secret War, which I enjoyed, but which had to retroactively change the civilian identities of half the villains in the book when it was pointed out that they were dead, redeemed, etc.

Simon’s been bent for awhile but this looks to me like Bendis’ last nail in the coffin of much of Roy Thomas and Steve Englehart’s continuity. You know, when Avengers were in their prime, at their best, top of the mark; when men were men and sheep were nervous. Oh, to have access to Doomsy’s time machine for an hour and travel back to prevent Bendis from becoming Marvel’s golden boy. Maybe steer him toward Hollywood, set him up with the Lost people. He might have written the Star Trek movie and enraged their fans instead of die-hard Avengers junkies.

Have to owe you the two-cents, it’s been a lean year.

Bendis is scuh-raping the bottom of the barrel here. Marvel must be the most anal-retentive corporation ever. They can’t let go of any characters, no matter how crappy they are.

I’m sorry, but DC is way worse when it comes to not letting lame characters go. They hold onto and revisit every character, no matter how lame. For example, look at Bouncing Boy. For some reason he is back in the Legion books. Why?

I look forward to dozens of panels of the characters talking at the reader explaining why they’ve decided to join the Revengers.

I think Wonder Man is totally out of character since the new Avengers series started so I am hoping it is some sort of mind control. He doesn’t even really want to be a hero, just an actor. No way he would form a team to go after the Avengers. That’s like arming yourself to protest guns. And I liked D-Man back in the day. The costume was horrendous, but someone could do something interesting with him. Not sure that will happen here.

D-Man served in Iraq before the baby sitting application. He put together a “defenders” squad there that operated outside of military jurisdiction.

I like everyone on this team, but him. I can’t see him doing this.

Anyone who thinks, “There are a lot of things to like about that era of Cap stories, but D-Man wasn’t one of them,” didn’t read those issues of Cap. D-Man was a great addition to the book and was good in his run in The Thing before that.

I’ll admit that his costume was atrocious but he was an interesting and likable character until someone decided to turn him into Lord of the Underground Homeless People.

That Bendis continues to treat him like a joke does a disservice to a potentially good character. I was really hoping he’d end up being Luke and Jessica’s nanny to be honest.

No truth to the rumor that the working title of this book was “Avengers – Cry For Justice.”

The “new’ Captain Ultra looks like Killer Moth without the wings.

“I think Wonder Man is totally out of character since the new Avengers series started so I am hoping it is some sort of mind control.”

Pretty much all the Avengers have been out of character since the moment Bendis started writing them… This is just ruining a few more of the classic characters so his pet characters can seem better (Luke Cage is a top hero while Jan and Vision are left to rot, Hawkeye’s a suicidal/homicidal ninja; and Wanda and Simon are crazy villainous killers? Thanks, but no. The Bendis era can end any time now and the work on repairing the MU can begin.)

“Anyone who thinks, “There are a lot of things to like about that era of Cap stories, but D-Man wasn’t one of them,” didn’t read those issues of Cap.”

Totally read them. Still believe that statement. Thanks for playing!

Actually that came across as more flippant than I intended. I was never a fan of D-Man, but I totally support your right to like the character, Funketeer … and that was a great era of Cap comics.

First the Scarlet Witch and now Wonder Man?? Is it not bad enough that they rebuilt the Vision with the Mind of an Adolescent? Bad enough the original has been portrayed as Robot when he is a synthetic being and treated as one of the weaker Avengers after the Perez/Busiek run.

Now we have his spiritual brother going off the deep end?

Anyone see a pattern here? Wanda goes nuts kills ex-husband (Vision), now her former lover goes nuts and has a vendetta against the Avengers.

Revengers was the name of a team from Neal Adams’ Continuity comics.

@Jake Earlewine:

Um, you don’t need to keep publishing something to maintain copyrights. You DO have to use character NAMES on publicity materials in order to maintain that TRADEMARK but even if you don’t own the trademark you can still use those characters names within the pages, you just can’t use it on the cover or any advertising material. (see the whole SHAZAM/Captain Marvel debacle for further information.)

So the idea that Marvel is dictating that someone use these characters so they can keep owning them is just… wrong.

THIS IS NOT HOW YOU WRITE D-MAN.

Actually, Anti-Venom has always been very keen to get on Spidey’s good side. It’s Spidey who’d like to see the back of him. Unfortunately I don’t expect the characterisation to be consistent here… although who knows, perhaps there’s some organic purpose to it.

Hell, I’m just glad that they’re doing something with Anti-Venom. Big Brock fan, here. He thinks he’s a hero now, so maybe he’s… confused, lol. It’s been known to happen. After all, the guy’s nuts.

Two comments:
1. This team is even more of a sausage fest than the Avengers.

2. Despite that, I would buy the hell out of a Revengers title with this line up.

@ Nick. I would too. Mainly because Anti-Venom is on it, but one of my favorite books in the last few years was Dark Avengers, and this seems kind of like the minor-league DA.

Century would be ( costume wise, and interest in revenge wise)

Turner D. Century, an old villain from the first issues of Spider woman and he later fought D. Fortune.

I thought he was long dead

Fun Fact: Century’s power staff is named Parallax

Guess its better than DORK avengers. Wait Norman’s coming back soon. Damn.

Very concerned that Bendis is going to ruin some of my favourite B-list and C-list characters here. Atlas is probably my favourite of the Thunderbolts. And Captain Ultra? How can that guy be ‘dark’?

If he does them justice, I’ll be impressed. But the premise alone has me very worried.

@Mark J. Hayman
“…this looks to me like Bendis’ last nail in the coffin of much of Roy Thomas and Steve Englehart’s continuity. You know, when Avengers were in their prime, at their best, top of the mark… Oh, to have access to Doomsy’s time machine…”

My thoughts exactly. The Marvel Universe I knew and loved seems to have died about the time Mark Gruenwald died. Ever since Bob Harras became Editor-In-Chief, I’ve felt like Marvel’s heroes are some alternate universe versions. After thirty years of establishing their personalities and behavior, suddenly Cap, Iron Man, and Thor began speaking and behaving out of character. Thank you for pointing out that what I’m attached to is the Thomas-Englehart continuity.

@T.
“I’m sorry, but DC is way worse when it comes to not letting lame characters go. They hold onto and revisit every character, no matter how lame. For example, look at Bouncing Boy.”

You got me there, brother. Bouncing Boy just ruins the whole Legion thing for me.

@Hutchimus
“I look forward to dozens of panels of the characters talking at the reader explaining why they’ve decided to join the Revengers.”

LOL! So true! We can be assured there will be page after page of grim and gritty grimaces and scowls.

Revengers making their debut as the same time the Dark Avengers come back? Now, that’s what we should be looking for.

Argh. I hope these characters — yes, the C- and D-listers too (or even them in particular) — can recover from whatever damage Bendis does to them. And, of course, Wonder Man too.

Looking forward to this … I’m a fan of Dell’otto (the anti Alex Ross)

I have to say though being that I appear to be in the minority amongst the comments. To me, Bendis does what bendis does .. and I feel he does it very well. I have loved the hell out of his enitire Avengers Universe Run(s) and I have loved what marvel has done with the 616 for the most part since he famously/infamously Disassembled the avengers. They have consistantly evolved the universes status qou and because of this have given much greater depth to much if not most of the Marvel stable.

In Bendis’s Marvel Universe people act like people. Give them a different situation you’ll see a different person. Alot of people are ugly on the inside. Alot of normal good people do stupid things or have out of character moments. A normal guy/gal that falls in love will do some bat&^$& crazy stuff if it falls apart on them. A good guy that has never broken the law can get locked up for a DUI and people will judge, his employer will judge. His worldview will change. That’s people.

Oh I know … I hear your arguments of “I read comics to get away from real people and reality.”

My reaction to that is good luck because any novel, movie, comic, fantasy, book on freakin tape is at some point a mirror. It’s what makes good fiction. Creating something relateable amongst the crazy and them getting .. well … crazier. That’s good fiction.

I do believe that Marvel has mastered the art of mixing reality with the fantastic. It was their claim to fame from Day one in 1962. Bendis and others have built on that.

And honestly I love how if i went back and read from Disassembled to the present it would feel like one big narrative of this happens because that happens because that happens leading me to now and watching our beloved hero’s roll and roll and roll some more with the punches. Seeing new sides to them as their world changes around them an in turn their world view and in turn their personality. Marvel from Disassembled to now has been geniously Epic, very smart, and forward thinking. Has everything been a gem .. no of course not … but the overall and majority has been pretty amazing

So I guess I’m sayin I’ll .. um … pick this up for.

MAKE MINE MARVEL

Right with you, Ponchojohnson. While Bendis doesn’t hit it out of the park on every outing he certainly has as high a batting average as any other writer I can think of. We’re always being told “vote with your dollars.” Well then, given Avengers’ sales numbers since “Disassembled” and the proliferating line of Avengers franchise titles, Bendis’ detractors are vastly outnumbered by those fans laying down hard earned bucks, resulting in Avengers toppling X-Men as Marvel’s top franchise, and for most of the past 6 years getting Avengers back where it belongs–as a top 10-selling book. Often two or three in the top 10. And they will be again once the “Gotta get a number 1″ fervor over DC’s across the board, almost, relaunch subsides. My only worry was could I afford three additional Avengers titles. Fortunately “One More Day” happened and the money set aside for the three books I immediately dropped was able to be applied to Avengers. But then, what do I know? I’ve only been reading Avengers monthly since June of ’63.

Yeah… not interested in reading about formerly heroic characters who are really ugly on the inside, sorry. Not because it’s too “realistic,” either, but because people acting like creeps, jerks or villains aren’t people I want to hang around with in the real world either. Frankly, I’m glad Marvel’s moving away from the anti-heroic Bendis/Millar stuff.

@Poncho, Steve:

I’m with you guys!

Bendis’s Avengers are *my* Avengers.

Scourge of the Internet

August 11, 2011 at 3:48 am

The reason D-Man’s old costume looks like a cross between Wolverine’s mask with Daredevil’s first suit is because it WAS.

I love how Wonder Man’s speech to his team is all about how he’s standing up to Cap, Iron Man, and Thor; they’ve gotten too big for their britches, and he’s gonna take ‘em down a peg…by going after the Avengers team that doesn’t have Cap, Iron Man, or Thor.

There has been little that I have enjoyed about Bendis’s run on Avengers, but I does make me feel better to no that some people have enjoyed it. It also makes me feel better to know that one day, maybe 5 to 10 years from now, the real Avengers real return.

Top 3 Favorite Creative Teams for the Avengers
1. Roger Stern/John Buscema
2. Kurt Busiek/George Perez
3. Roy Thomas/John Buscema

“Wonder Man is one of my favorite Marvel characters, and seeing whats being done to him by Bendis is as criminal as Morrison’s treatment of Beast.”

Morrison made Beast one of the lead X-men whereas in the years prior he had become just one of the crowd.

But this is really about the gay thing isn’t it?

Atlas’ costume reminds me of his old Powerman outfit. Appropriate for Powerman, not so much for Atlas though. I’m curious to see how that plays out.

I’m of two minds here. I am one of the people that likes what Bendis does. Even when nothing happens in one of his books (and tell the truth Bendis fans – that happens often), I tend to enjoy it anyway. Yes, everyone does speak the same, with very few exceptions (Spidey has his own voice, for example) but his dialog is consistently entertaining, and just enough happens in the plots to always keep me interested.

But I do agree with posters who complain about some of his characterizations. Simon is HANDS DOWN one of my favorite Avengers. I think of him as a mainstay of the group in the same vein as Cap, Thor and Iron Man. And as corny as it could make the story, I pray it is some type of mind control, because ATTACKING the Avengers is just something so drastically out of character, it will have to be mind control, or that Marvel has allowed Bendis to make Simon lose his mind. And I really don’t want that to be the case. Depending on how it’s handled, I can buy any of these others believing they are doing the “right” thing in going against the Avengers…maybe….I guess?

But you know what? I know I’m going to plunk down the money for it. Can’t wait.

“Morrison made Beast one of the lead X-men whereas in the years prior he had become just one of the crowd.”

The Beast used to be one of the coolest looking characters in the MU (especially when drawn by George Perez). Morrison made him ….. a cat. Ridiculous.

I’ve liked just about everything about the Avengers since Bendis took over (except for Thor and Wolverine…he sucks at writing them). I hated the Avengers before that. So considering how much I’ve liked what he’s done with everything I have no problem with him messing around with Wonder Man…who is not one of my favorites to begin with.

^@Colin7
that from art perspective,not writing

edge,
The look of a character is one of the reasons we love them. I hate the Beast’s look now. He looks like a Thundercat.

Jake: Even if you weren’t glaringly wrong about copyright, you can’t argue that Marvel is scraping the bottom of the barrel and then also doing this to preserve copyright. If it’s bottom of the barrel, no one else would want them, and if someone else would want them, they’re not bottom of the barrel. Catch 22.

Also, DC is just as guilty of bringing characters and legacies back. Not that either one is in the wrong for doing so – why should old characters sit around unused forever if someone can do something interesting with them?

Edge: You can say it’s an art perspective, but who introduced secondary mutations? You can’t say that was the artist too – Morrison is to blame for catbeast (plus, you really think writers don’t have input into character appearances?)

“The Beast used to be one of the coolest looking characters in the MU (especially when drawn by George Perez). Morrison made him ….. a cat. Ridiculous.”

Too true. Beast used to be an awesome character, genius, articulate, cassanova, friendly, smilely, selfless….now he’s a Disney rip-off, pun. Such a waste.

Damn let the book come out before u kill it. Geez what is it with people these days?? we dont even wait to SEE it and already it sux? How? Im at least gonna give it a chance. The man does good work. Bendis, im there man.

This whole Revengers team and story is nothing more than a present day rehash of the Revengers story from A-NEXT several years ago. Heck, both teams are called the Revengers.

I actually thought that was a new, FEMALE, Captain Ultra
I’m sceptical, Bendis has been derailing a lot of Avengers, I do wonder if he’s read too much actual Avengers books (rather than Dr. Strange, Power Man & Iron Fish, Spider-Man etc) and I keep seenig the dead hand of Scott Lang (Ant-Man II, is it II) every time I look at that picture…I don’t want to be down on the book before it’s released but… nah, sceptical

I think it’s funny that in a higher up comment someone said something to the point of this being out of character for Atlas and then they went on to reference Thunderbolts, etc …. and everybody’s like .. yah .. that’s out of character and then the bandwagon rolls on and on .. and disses on Bendis and then they reflect on there favorite moments from 40+ years ago … and then say something like … I can’t wait till my “real” heroes return someday

Um guys … well isn’t Thunderbolts out of character for Atlas cause 40 years ago he was a pretty nasty villian known as Power man .. he got his powers the same way Simon did … and he was chillin with the Enchantress and stuff … so if we use your logic … isn’t he closer to what he was then his “out of character” antics with the Thunderbolts .. you guys should be thrilled.

Oh yah .. oh I know … he still not going to be written one demonsional enough for you.

Good Grief .. if the Avengers and others still acted as static as they were written way back when … I would be buying less comics by far…

Oh and yah I do collect silver age avengers issues … I appreciate them immensely for what they were and what they offered … so I’m well versed

BTW if those Avengers comics were coming out now … I’m sure you guys that hate “out of character” moments would be flooding the comment boards over Hank Pym’s long fall … Or the many costume changes of many characters … Hawkeye, Wasp .. etc … Hell even probaly Hawkeye’s goliath era …

But I guess if you love to hate well you’re gonna hate .. whether it makes sense or not

BTw part 2 .. hmm … and maybe knowing Wonder Man and Power man/Atlas’s origins you would maybe appreciate them being on the same team a little more .. oh .. sorry I forgot … Bendis has no regard for th past my fault.

nuff’ said

Long Live The Pym!!

And look at the up and down history of Quicksilver. Villain, hero, villain, hero, psycho villain, repentant, villain, hero, villain, teacher, blackmail victim…..and I always thought he was the more fun speedster to read about because I couldn’t suspend my disbelief sufficiently to enjoy The Flash but a guy Quicksilver’s speed was about right. And his arrogant/impatient/prejudiced attitude made him all the more interesting. Didn’t like the time Thomas had him kicking his legs fast and actually flying! Ohmigosh, that faded fast and has never been referenced again, to my knowledge. I pretty much judge Avengers and other titles by how anxious I am to find out what happens next month. I fully agree with the poster who complimented the Thomas/Buscema (and Thomas/Adams I’d add) work, Stern/Buscema, and Busiek/Perez runs. Fantastic. But I’ll be honest–I’ve put the Bendis/Epting etc. runs right up alongside them. Like I said, vote with your dollars. I think a lot of people are and that’s why Avengers’ sales are where they are. And let’s face it, Avengers has been 200 times more interesting and intriguing than Justice League now for a decade or more. Justice League got me into comics; Avengers kept me there. I’m okay with whatever happens to Wonder Man; heck, even the ionic whatever that gave him and Atlas their powers could by now be screwing with their brains. Maybe they’re like kids born on meth; eventually the lack any kind of conscience and some synapses just don’t seem to close right for them. That explanation would work for me. And then either cure him or kill him. Speaking of which, changing thoughts, will the adage once again now be “no one stays dead at Marvel except Uncle Ben and yes, once again, Bucky.” One more thought: Contest for all comics writers–let’s see who can write the first super-hero comic where the main character is married–and get it into the Top 10! Writers!!–go for it! (Don’t count Thor and Sif; never read they’re married; they’re just “doing it” nowadays.

bit of a sausage fest there. Where are the ladies?

“Good Grief .. if the Avengers and others still acted as static as they were written way back when … I would be buying less comics by far…”

If Avengers and others were written (and illustrated, for that matter) as they were way back when… maybe there would still be millions of comic book readers instead of only a few hundred thousand.

Some Assembly Required

August 14, 2011 at 4:10 am

RE: Bendis’s Avengers

Make it stop. Please.

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