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DC’s relaunched Teen Titans to debut gay teen superhero [Updated]

Bunker from "Teen Titans"

Following through on its pledge to create “a more modern, diverse DC Universe” with the New 52, DC Comics will introduce a gay teenage superhero in Teen Titans.

Series artist Brett Booth has revealed that Bunker will debut in November’s Issue 3 — he’s referred to as “The Wall” in the solicitation text — where he’s depicted as an openly gay teen from Mexico who “can create small force fields that look like bricks.” The character, whom the artist describes as “happy, fun-loving,” appears in the background in the cover of the first issue and again, more prominently, on the one for Issue 3.

“We’re trying to make being gay a part of who he is,” Booth wrote last night on Twitter.

Bunker isn’t the first gay Titan — that was probably Hero Cruz of Titans L.A., although there was a lot of fan speculation about Jericho when he debuted in 1984 — but he’s (likely) the first gay teen introduced into the post-Flashpoint DC Universe.

Teen Titans, by Scott Lobdell, Booth and Norm Rapmund, premieres on Sept. 28.

Update: On his blog, Booth has posted Lobdell’s description of Bunker:

His real name is Miguel Jose Barragan. He was raised in a very small Mexican village called El Chilar. He was very loved by his family and the village as well — and they were as accepting of his homosexuality as they were to his super powers when they first manifested. To that end he grew up in an angst-free environment. He was born out of the closet and so he has a very refreshing outlook on life.

“So Bunker has been out of both closets since the get go,” Booth added. “Why the more flamboyant look? Well it’s complicated. I’ve seen all the other gay superheroes out there, Ok maybe not all. They look just like regular heterosexuals, they act like regular heterosexuals, they just happen to have sex with people of their own gender, under the covers and in the dark. Sure you might get a kiss on a page, but that’s all (an no we won’t be doing any sex scenes in TT, get your minds OUT of the gutters) … We wanted to show an interesting character who’s homosexuality is part of him, not something that’s hidden. Sure they are gay people who you wouldn’t know are gay right off the bat, but there are others who are a more flamboyant, and we thought it would be nice to actually see them portrayed in comics. Did we go over the top, I don’t think so. I wanted you to know he might be gay as soon as you see him. Our TT is partly about diversity of ANY kind, its about all kinds of teens getting together to help each other. It is a very difficult line to walk, will he be as I’ve read in some of the comments ‘fruity’? Not that I’m aware of. Will he be more effeminate than what we’ve seen before, the ‘typical’ gay male comic character, yes. Does it scare the shit out of me that I might inadvertently piss off the group I want to reflect in a positive way, you’re damn straight (pun intended!)”

There’s more from Booth on his blog.



Ugh…. A fauxhawk? Seriously?

His name is “The Wall” and he makes brick-like forcefields? Heh. A not very thinly-veiled Stonewall Riots reference?

@ArcanumV: Yeah he has a purple and magenta costume too.

“…he’s (likely) the first gay teen introduced into the post-Flashpoint DC Universe.”

I think “the first xyz in the post-Flashpoint DC Universe” just may be an even more obscure claim to fame than all of the “first appearance of Ultimate [decades-old familiar character]” from Marvel. It’s a close contest, though. :-)

I guess ‘Teen Titans introduces new teen Superhero who happens to be gay’ just wasn’t headline grabbing enough?

^ Wow, hypercritical much, everyone?

I just hope that DC does those of us in the LGBT community a favor and don’t make being gay the ONLY thing that he is. I’m kinda get the impression by the way fauxhawk, the abundance of purple and pink and the piercings that he’s going to be somewhat flamboyant. And while that’s fine (we’ve never had a really flamboyant flag-waving gay character before in comics), I’d rather he not be a one-note character. So long as he’s written with depth, an appealing backstory and he’s able to offer more than just gay stereotypes, I’m looking forward to seeing what is done with him.

well, he’s definitely not my kind of gay. This Teen Titans incarnation seems way too glam so far.

I was just thinking about this, (reading Clive Barker) are there any gay comic creators?

“I was just thinking about this, (reading Clive Barker) are there any gay comic creators?”

this has train wreck wrote all over it.

Is he jumping out of a painting of the cliffs at Dover there?

Wow, how about you stop worrying about sexual preference and think about a good story for a change?

I dislike this simply because i rather they have just let me find out in the comic rather than spoil it here.

I also agree with shifty since i did like how southland treated one of its character’s coming out of the closet by not making a big deal out of it.

“I’ve seen all the other gay superheroes out there, Ok maybe not all. They look just like regular heterosexuals, they act like regular heterosexuals, they just happen to have sex with people of their own gender…”

“I wanted you to know he might be gay as soon as you see him.”

Good. people need to realize that being gay has nothing to do with something as ultimately unimportant as a human being’s sexual preference but rather with how they dress and style their hair.

I can normally spot a gay from 50 paces. Of course its always easy to spot giant pink energy wrapped around pink spandex.

If people understood this better they would know that the new Ultimate Spiderman couldn’t possibly be gay. Not in all that black, no way girlfriend.

Swear, I know this guy!

“We wanted to show an interesting character who’s homosexuality is part of him, not something that’s hidden.”

I know how he feels. As a straight man, I make sure that people know that that’s who I am and I make sure to flaunt my heterosexuality whenever I can.

Whenever people think of Joe H, they think, “He likes women.”

I’m thrilled by what Brett has revealed about Miguel. To be honest, we haven’t seen the full range of gay characters in comics, including those who are more flamboyant or, as I like to think of it, more secure in just being a themself that isn’t necessarily like every other kid or adult. This picture could literally be a photograph of my best friend at 15: a totally out, very secure gay kid. Making a single gay character more effeminate or ‘fruity’ isn’t homophobic. Claiming there’s something wrong with gay kids being effeminate is.

This is a massively stupid idea for a character. Simply for the sake of being “inclusive” you create a disgusting stereotype. To make matters worse you give him a lame codename and the ability to create purple force fields.

Talk about a forced character. Seriously , sometimes I wonder if people in the comic business know how to present a gay homosexual character without making references to MTV sterotypes

I’m hoping there’s a very special team-up in the offing.

Bunker & Extrano together for the first time!

Lobdell is really surprising me; I’m new to comics, beyond buying a few trade paperbacks, and have picked up/am planning to pick up about 20 of the new 52, none of which feature any of Lobdell’s books, which did not look like the kind of thing I was really interested in buying — I was more excited about Morrison, Snyder, Lemire books. But I’ve heard great things about Superboy’s story, the art on Red Hood looks great, and this kind of reasoning behind introducing a new gay character is brilliant. People don’t seem to realize enough that introducing some perceived minority or non-“norm” character and just treating them -exactly- like whatever the norm is perceived to be, erasing their uniqueness, is almost as offensive as the stereotypes such writers are trying to escape from. The kinds of writers Lobdell is talking about, who write gay characters without any real evidence of them being gay beyond the descriptor, are quite guilty of this — don’t ask, don’t tell type policy, where it’s OK to be yourself as long as you don’t push it in other people’s faces, when that’s not reflective of reality or how people could choose to live. So not only will I now buy Teen Titans when I had not planned to, but I think I’ll pick up the other Lobdell books too.

Sometimes I wonder if people realize MTV stereotypes actually exist in the real world too. Pretending there are no effeminate or audacious gay men is just as offensive as claiming we all are.

How long before they realize that his powers and code name are stupid and lame and change them or he’ll be killed off or simply forgotten?

I lol’d at Joe H and Lackshmana. You guys made my point better then I could.

There could be problems with Bunker going forward. In a close-ended story, a gay character, or any character, will be as successful as the story itself. When the story’s done, so is his — whatever that was.

As a serial character, writers will have to think of things for Bunker to do, and whether to focus on his gayness or treat him as just another hero. Unfortunately, most heroes aren’t very complicated. Focus on his sexuality; the storyline could seem awkward and lecturing. Treat him as another character, and the reason he was introduced disappears. If the cast had a bunch of gays, lesbians, et al., there’d be no problem handling Bunker, but then there would have been no reason to highlight his appearance.

All sorts of problems handling minorities could be avoided by writing the characters as people, but that would require drastic changes to the methods used to tell stories in comics.


I actually think it’s very important to create a gay character who’s flamboyant. Too often comics go the exact-opposite direction with their gay characters to make them easier for homophobes to swallow. I like that we’re getting an out, proud, in-your-face gay guy in the DCU.

I’m thinking Brett Booth wasn’t the best choice to kick this project off. That “pun intended” nonsense at the end there kinda seals it.

And of COURSE he’s wearing pink. How else could anyone possibly tell he was gay if he wasn’t wearing pink?! Can we not dress the poor kid like the purple Teletubby just to drive the point home? SHEESH.

Fotocub, it’s not really the design or character so much as the whole idea. The announcement is remarkably shallow. Why not let us actually meet the character and forms our own opinions? This is like an old FF issue unmasking Black Panther with the tagline “OH LOOK WE HAVE A NEGRO”

You have to laugh that the only things so far is Booth telling us he’s very gay, creates force fields, and two pics, one that looks like Robin is kicking him. Is that a hate crime?

catsmeow you are the greatest poster in the history of this blog.

Didn’t DC have a flamboyantly gay Hispanic character in The New Guardians way back when? Lemme go check Wikipedia…

Yup, Extrano.

Good lord, the crap that sticks in my brain…


“Extraño helped his team defeat a number of supervillains while trying his best to assist them with personal problems. On one mission in particular, he was attacked by an “AIDS vampire” called the Hemo-Goblin. He was subsequently confirmed to be HIV-positive but it’s unclear whether he was infected by Hemo-Goblin or had already been infected prior to his introduction.”

Wow. This was after Vibe, though.

“Our TT is partly about diversity of ANY kind”

So, which Teen Titans character speaks out against homosexuality? Diversity of ANY kind would naturally include such representation. To claim otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

Train wreck!!!!!

nice and dc for taking this step. for one should not just look as bunker as oh dc is trying to make their universe diverse and increasing their representation of gays by adding a gay teen who just happen to look like every bad gay sterotype. for after all dc wound up with that same stuff over batwoman just being define as being gay. one should wait and give bunker being in the book a chance before condeming dc for wanting a full diverse universe. props to dc for taking this step. going to have to see what bunker adds to the team though him calling himself the wall is just asking for a cross over with the suicide squad. amanada vs bunker for the right to the nickname the wall.

So, I wrote before that this kid is not “my kind of gay”. BUT, for the record, there are countless gay kids out there who embrace the pink, the glitter, the glam and flamboyant aspect of it all. And there’s nothing wrong with it – they should be represented too.

So glad I’m no longer reading DC.

Ugh! There is better Titans characters just doing nothing right now. Nothing but hey instead of using them they want use token gay guy and throw away characters.

@Kal: Because bigotry does not equal diversity, and even if it did, it isn’t the kind of diversity DC is trying to celebrate.

I have this sneaking suspicion that the people complaining the most about this already weren’t planning on buying the series. I mean, cripes.

One thing about the slow-but-steady introductions of depictions of gay characters in comics is that it’s been handled very, very sensitively. Look at the examples that we have so far. Northstar definitely exemplifies the sassy stereotype, but he’s hardly flamboyant. Wiccan and Hulkling were average teenage guys who just happened to like guys. Ultimate Colossus was another anti-stereotype. In the same way that many inner-city comic readers were excited about Miles Morales, a half-black, half-Hispanic kid being represented by Ultimate Spider-Man, I’m glad DC will be giving face-time to a guy who can’t–and doesn’t–hide his sexuality, so that kids just like him have someone in comics to identify with as well.

If you’re against that, this move was clearly not meant for you. If you don’t like it, don’t support it. But the idea that this move *shouldn’t* be made for those that it *is* aimed for? Well that just strikes me of a closed-mindedness I thought comic readers specifically weren’t known for.

I have always felt like Teen Titans should be the book that new readers can pick up in order to understand the mission statement of the DC Universe at any given moment. This is exactly that. They wanted a new, more diverse DC Universe. This is a step in the right direction.

I won’t criticize this until I after I read it.

The suit-and-tie outfit isn’t his costume is it? It’s too civilianesque. He needs a superhero costume that actually looks like a superhero costume.

It looks like that might be him in the picture on the left as well, although if it is, he and the Teen Titans must have a misunderstanding when they first meet.

Or maybe that’s the equalent of Wolverine and Colossus’ fasball special, tossing Wolvie at the bad guy so he can hit him fast and hard.

Okay, trying to diversify your comics is one thing. Appeal to more readers, possibly open some very closed minds… but why did they decide to make a gay character that is that stereotypically “fabulous” brand of gay that most people, gay and straight, loathe? Seriously, they piled it on.

Pink and purple color scheme, check. Hawaiian short sleeve shirt with one button undone and a tie. Check. A vest with casual clothing, check. A long sleeve undershirt rolled up under it all. Check. A decided mix of tacky dress clothes and casual clothes. Tiny sunglasses. And a fauxhawk. Plus in that shot, he actually looks like he’s making some flamboyant exclamation.

From most comments here I’d say that readers both gay and straight will react negatively to this character.

Neat! I was already gonna pick up the first issue at least, but this will have me going to at least 3 or 4.
Personally I’m not overly flamboyant, and in real life that can annoy me, but I think it’s well past time for somebody like this in a mainstream comic book.
I’m under the impression that Lobdell’s gonna be representing the whole team as well-rounded characters, and this inclusion makes me very pleased.

por que el personaje Gay, tiene que ser Latino, en este caso mexicano, es como un insulto, o es que asi es como nos ven en U.S.A… que pena, otra razon mas para no leer ese titulo tna chafo….

This reminds me of all the kvetching that went on when Batwoman was introduced as a lesbian.
How’d that turn out?

But DC already tried this angle. Extrano, anyone? Gay, flamboyant, Latino, and wore purple = how’d that work out again?

“This reminds me of all the kvetching that went on when Batwoman was introduced as a lesbian.
How’d that turn out?”

It was a total train wreck.

They utterly wasted the character on sparse guest appearances, where she spent the majority of the time mind controlled or otherwise useless. It was an obvious failure by DC to do anything with the character.

It wasn’t until years later that Greg Rucka got to give her a role in Detective Comics, and he said flat out that he totally understood people being skeptical of a character who had thus far been nothing but a ridiculous token.

Then after she finally got a worthwhile spot light, they took it away from her for a few more years.

So yeah, I would say it turned out pretty horribly.

Bunker? I barely know ‘er!

Lackshmana – I would argue that the new, current Batwoman is one of the very few SUCCESSFUL introductions of a new character in recent years. Think about it: How many company-owned corporate superhero characters have been introduced in the modern era that have actually stuck? How many gay or lesbian characters that have actually stuck? Batwoman is one of the most compelling characters in the new 52 and Greg Rucka’s excellent “Elegy” arc established her as more than a stereotype, more than a token… she’s complex, nuanced, intelligent, capable, a dynamic minority character that’s stronger and more interesting because of her sexual orientation, instead of constrained by it and the center of a really worthwhile ongoing story that will be explored in her own monthly. I’d say that’s as successful as I’d need any character to be.

Of course, that’s all the work of Rucka and JH Williams III. I think the real moral of the story is that minority characters, or any character, are best serviced by writers and artists who have the skill, sensitivity and patience to cultivate three-dimensional, albeit fictional, figures. That takes a talented humanist writer and artist. If you’re just going to write embarrassing and stupid cliches and pretend it’s “diversity” then you’re just wasting everyone’s time.

Bunker, by the way, seems completely ridiculous and cringe-inducing. I hope I’m wrong.

I think they handled this wrong in my opinion but I cant argue with the fact that there should be a flamboyant gay hero because lets face it there are flamboyant gays out there. I just wish they would of given him a better name.

as for successful gay characters that have debuted recently you can add to the list:
Victoria Hand

“We’re trying to make being gay a part of who he is”


Look, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with having a gay character but the previous ones they mentioned in this article NOT being all in your face about being gay is FAR more true-to-life than the flamboyant type. Yes, they exist, but who makes their sexuality PART of who they are as a person? That’s the part that bothers me.

Take the above quote and replace “gay” with “straight.” How would that be accomplished, why, and what for?
Now look at at the original quote instead. How would that be accomplished, why, and what for?

At the end of the day, readers don’t care about their heroes’ sexuality; they want good stories featuring good vs evil. Tossing in homosexuality as a feature in some cheap manner to hope it attracts new readers is just forcing diversity simply for the sake of… forcing it.

I like the concept a lot, but the execution scares the hell out of me, considering the creative team. Hopefully he turns out to be a well-rounded flamboyant gay character (which is sorely lacking in comics) as opposed to a bad sitcom character.

The thing that’s great about the gay heroes is that they’re just often like regular people that just happen to be gay – the same way it is in reality. By intentionally making him flamboyant, it adds to the negative stereotype that all gay men are flaming queens. I would have rathered if they made him to be like a “normal” guy that isn’t secretive or shy about his homosexuality but also doesn’t go around announcing it to the world. I’m gay and not shy about it or about letting people know, but I’m not one of those guys that is a flamer; I can’t stand guys like that.

I give them credit for the attempt. There aren’t many single gay male characters out there. Since being gay isn’t generally visual it’s difficult to depict a character’s sexuality without having another male as an appendage (Wiccan/Hulkling, Apollo/Midnighter), and the default assumption about a character is that they are straight. Should it make a difference? Sure. Interactions read differently if you know where a character is coming from.
That said, ‘Bunker’ is truly an atrocious name. Hopefully it will change.
D. Peace: Batwoman cannot really be used as a comparison. While I agree that her Detective series was well written and drawn, she is helped enormously by having ‘Bat’ as part of her name, plus lesbians are far more popular across all demographics than gay males.

I have a problem with making a big deal of it before it even happens, but that’s the times we live in and it’s hard to escape no matter what topic you’re talking about. i just have to get used to a world with an internet that spoils everything and determines outcomes before beginnings take place.

As for the actual article’s topic, I already don’t like this kid because they’re outright defining him as flamboyant. I know flamboyant straight people (in the way that they are loud/obnoxious/in-your-face/macho, etc.) and they annoy the hell out of me, too. So, right there, I’ve formed an opinion without reading the story and getting to know the character. I’m getting these issues, almost out of habit because I’m a long-time Titans follower, but I already wasn’t looking forward to it based on the costumes of some of my favorite characters in pre-52 DC. They all look somewhat flamboyant to me. Tim’s pre-52 Red Robin costume was great. This costume is over-the-top. Then, Lobdell’s been around for ages and he’s kind of hit and miss for me. Hopefully, it’ll be well-written and have meaning and depth.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m getting old and lack flavor. I’m not that old – early 30s – but I guess I prefer older sensibilities. I don’t have a problem with this kid on first sight and him being gay doesn’t bother me, but describing him as flamboyant… I just like things (and people) to present themselves with more care and subtlety. I don’t get told that something’s exciting and get excited.

I’m just glad I’m not the only one who remembers Extraño.

I think the DCnU has found it’s Vibe.

You guys remember Vibe? Member of JL Detroit? Latino kid who DC created to cash in on the breakdancing craze? So hated, not even changing his costume or dropping the breakdancing part could make people care about him and was killed off.

Now, it seems DC is tying to cash in on the gay teen thing. And I see the same results for him.

it’s not about him being gay, it’s about if he’s a good character people will care about. And nothing described tells me that he’ll be a character that people will care about.

Everyone needs to just lay off here. The man is absolutely right—the overwhelming majority of characters that have been introduced in comics are mostly people who you’d have to read a trivia list or see them kissing someone of the same sex to even know they’re gay. It IS important to have it be a major part of someone’s character because for a lot of people sexuality is their base. From the macho hetero guy who constantly talks about women, to the effete gay who talks about guys, to pretend these people don’t exist in comics is to ignore reality entirely.

This is great news. Kids these days are more open to their sexualility, so including an open gay youth seems like a positive move on DC’s part.

Lets hope the bigots don’t rant and rave to much about this being unacceptable! There are still so many closed minded people out there.

I will definately be picking this up to show my support. But a note to the DC head honchos????? How about a bit more than a couple of days notice next time???? I pre order alot of my comics, so I hope I don’t miss out!!

I was hoping it would be Wonder Girl. Having a gay character and spoiling it kind of defeats the purpose. If he’s openly gay why not let us find out on out own?

@Kal – yeah, I agree. Hopefully there is a character who is uneasy about Bunker’s sexuality – it would make for great reading done well. Because that is real life.But I’m sure Lobdell will do great with this. His Eve of Destruction 4 parter in Xmen (dealing with these issues), is to this day one of my favorites – I was sad that that team didn’t last longer!

Now if DC would only do a Obsidian series – preferably written by Andreyko! – I would be ecstatic!! …Hey, if we can get some random new Ray character, with no fan base, while the hell can’t they give Obsidian a try! ;)

My biggest problem is how lame this is going to make the stories as well as how it is going to affect the characters themselves. Overall, it’s a bad idea.

i’d like to join the few posters here welcoming Bunker. i wasn’t planning on picking up TT, but now i might. there are many gay people who don’t blend in, and don’t care to. i agree that up until this point, most gay superheroes, while very important, have not reflected the reality of being gay in america.

ME: Who cares that he’s gay … what kind of powers does he have?

RE-READS ARTICLE FOR LITTLE-BITTY PIECE OF INFO: … teen from Mexico who “can create small force fields that look like bricks.”

ME: Yeah, I like him!

Why is this news? So you’re gay. Big deal. I’m straight. Can we please move beyond generalizations about each other?

“Why is this news? So you’re gay. Big deal. I’m straight. Can we please move beyond generalizations about each other?”
Seriously, you don’t think that being straight in any way influences your behavior or who you are?

The problem I have with this is how “sterotyped” his appearance is.

My uncle, who passed from complications due to HIV last year, was very openly gay. Having attended many parties with him and his friends, and having gone to the Monster (gay bar in NYC) with him many times, I saw gay men that were the stereotype you see in movies like the Birdcage or Jack on Will & Grace, and then gay guys you never would have looked at and automatically been able to make a reasonable guess.

My point is there are all kinds, just like with heterosexual people (I refuse the word “straight,” because its opposite is “crooked,” and to me, it implies that being gay means someone is crooked, but I digress).

When a character is gay or black or whatever and it becomes ALL the character is, that’s a problem. Now, being as how this character has not been seen yet, it’s impossible to tell, but there’s a character problem when the thing that makes him (I’m using him as a catchall to avoid constantly distracting him/her type slashes throughout) “different” from the mainstream is all there is to him.

What I mean is, a character should be a character FIRST as a whole, with his descriptors being more a component of the whole and not he is about.

Let’s take two gay characters from DC Comics. Batwoman is a gay female who we’ve seen with other women and know of her role with Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, but while her being gay is absolutely a part of the character and something that formed the whole, it is not ALL she is about.

On the other hand, take Terry Berg, who particularly after the Hate Crime arc of Green Lantern, ONLY appeared to talk about how difficult it was being gay. He became a cipher, a one dimensional character who only seemed to exist to tell you how gay he was and how he was adjusting. There was nothing else to his character.

If DC plays this new character more to the way Batwoman is, he’ll be more successful. It’s not that his sexuality should be hidden or ignored, but it shouldn’t be the overpowering thing that becomes all his character is defined as.

This absolutely, contrary to apologists, smacks of publicity stunt because it’s basically DC screaming, “Look! Look here! Look how diverse we are! Marvel has a black and Hispanic Spider-Man, well now we’ve got a Hispanic character AND he’s gay!” By saying something is not a big deal, and then intentionally making a big deal about it, you’re automatically setting the character up to be seen as little more than a PC fix, regardless of the veracity of such an assertion. After all, there was no press release for the brand new debut of other characters in the DCnU thus far. The ONLY reason this made news was because of his sexuality and now the character, to me, has to work harder to prove, through the writer, that he’s not just there for the sake of having a gay character and that that’s not ALL there is to know about him.

Marvel did that with Spider-Man denying it was about the publicity and yet, what was the issue that sold most? Yeah, the one they hyped and despite the press release giving his name and ethnicity, that was NEVER seen in the issue they were hyping–it was a few panels of him in the suit and then an unmasking. All of the other details didn’t formally appear in the comics until last week’s USM #1.

What they should have done was just let it happen organically, much like the way Winick (who also penned Terry Berg) let the female Sunfire in Exiles come out. For months, she was a character that you thought you had figured out and then after a while, they reveal she’s gay and you realize there were little clues here and there, the point being is that the character wasn’t introduced as a brand new GAY character, but just as a brand new character.

People blame bigots on bigotry existing, but that’s not entirely true; when people over emphasize everything that makes us DIFFERENT, they minimize that which makes us the SAME–our shared humanity in this world, regardless of gender, race, creed, or orientation.

“Because bigotry does not equal diversity, and even if it did, it isn’t the kind of diversity DC is trying to celebrate.”

How about admitting it exists for the sake of the story?

One of the lost plotlines in the original Alpha Flight book was, after Jean Paul came out, the Jean Marie persona (devout Catholic) was having trouble reconciling this part of her brother, while the Aurora persona was fine with it (and had been for some time). Two main characters, in a moral conflict.

And IIRC, Jerico’s sexuality was never in doubt by the writers. He was always meant to be the soft effemeniate painter type, and straight to play against type.

This character seems to be as out as Adam Lambert.

I’m a little perplexed by the suggestions that the title include a character opposed to, or uncomfortable with, homosexuality for the sake of the story or for some curious attempt at “diversity.”

While tension is the heart of drama, I can’t imagine someone recommending a racist being added to a superhero lineup because there’s a minority character. Or that the team with a female leader include a sexist who thinks women belong in the home.

The DC Universe is populated by super-powered humans, magical creatures, gods, aliens and talking animals. In that context, fighting crime alongside a guy who likes guys wouldn’t be all that extraordinary, would it?


Allen Heinberg is out/gay, creator/writer of Young Avengers (featuring the best/most realistic gay couple in comics) and former Wonder Woman writer.

I agree with Kevin. How about doing something really different and making the gay character a total dick. Why is it that when a new gay/black/hispanic/whatever character is introduced, the “tension” manufactured is always by ig’nint white folk while the new guy/gal is elevated to misunderstood victim of a world that fears and hates?

Why not be REALLY innovative and flip the table?

@Trey & Sammy —

So is Marc Andreyko.

Surprised no one has mentioned that the Teen Titans is being written by Scott Lobdell who ALSO wrote “the historic (if often maligned) 1992 Alpha Flight #106 in which Northstar (Jean-Paul Baubier) officially publicly announced his homosexuality by screaming I’m Gay! while fighting an enraged Canadian Super Mountie named Major Mapleleaf (who was out to kill an AIDS baby for surviving and getting media attention while his gay son died). Hopefully Bunker will be getting a subtler, more three-dimensional, less over the top and generally better written treatment.”

see. i like this idea of bringing in people with opposing views. sure, if he’s gay don’t make that all he’s about, but if people are saying “we need more sexually and racially diverse characters because that’s the real world!!!” then absolutely, we need characters that are opposed to those characters. NOT all the time and that’s the only issue the gay or otherwise minoritied character ever deals with, absolutely not. but, if you want real, then there’s going to be real opposition. i’m not saying do this exactly, but i’d even find it interesting if a character, Tim for example, wasn’t openly bigoted and an outright bigot but he just felt uncomfortable around the other character. he respects him and wants to welcome him and fight beside him, but there’s just this thing that’s a part of him that makes him uneasy. he doesn’t even like this part and tries to supress it, but when he sees or hears certain things, it just makes him feel queezy. it’s not a good thing, but it’s not him being an aggressive douche about it, either. and maybe someone he’s close to notices he’s hiding it and chastizes him for it. that would be an interesting subplot to me.

i also like what charles above said about every non-straight white character being a saint that everyone loves. you want to be real, have both. on the same team, too, so you can’t get accused of one book’s writers being total bigots. have one gay character that everyone loves and is awesome, then have another character that’s gay that even the other gay character wants to knock out all the time because they’re just a total ass and how’d they let this guy on the team and how do we get rid of him and then they tell him to get lost and he cries discrimination. i’m not saying it should be the norm, but it is the occasional reality and could be interesting.

introducing Bunker / Wall… one of the next DC Universe’s Big Crossovers’ casualty fodders…

bigot – noun – a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

intolerant – adjective 1. not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one’s own, as in political or religious matters; bigoted.
2. unable or unwilling to tolerate or endure (usually followed by of ): intolerant of very hot weather.

Someone who is bigoted concerning homosexuals would not respect them at all, would not want them around, would not (in this context) read comics published by any company that had homosexual characters that were not persecuted for their attitudes. Believing that homosexual behavior is morally wrong is not being a bigot. Not respecting that belief is bigotry.

I don’t want to read comics with homosexual characters because I believe that homosexual behavior is wrong. I am not intolerant of the behavior. I understand that not everyone agrees with me; to expect them to abide by my rules (like those who want me to believe that homosexual behavior is ok) would be intolerant. So, I won’t be picking up Batwoman. Big deal. I’ll stick with Green Lantern. No big deal.


I’ve been reading Red Robin for a couple of years now – I really like the character of Tim Drake. I purchased TT#1, and was going to read it simply for Tim. I will not spend money to read about a character that I don’t like, so why would I spend money to read about someone engaging in behavior that I believe is wrong?

It’s DC’s sandbox. They can do what they like. I understand that they want diversity. Ok. Fine. But don’t expect me to subsidize any social engineer wannabees. Ok?

I’m glad that there are gay characters in comics. Who cares what close-minded people think.

Irony. Disagreeing with “diversity” is “close-minded”, but still justifiable bigotry.

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