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Whedon endorses Romney (and his vision for zombie apocalypse)

In between writing the screenplay for the sequel to The Avengers, developing ABC’s S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot and executive producing Dark Horse’s Buffy-verse comics, Joss Whedon somehow found time to shoot a video “endorsing” Mitt Romney for president. Sure, it’s a bit surprising, considering that Whedon and Romney differ on myriad social issues (today, in any case), but the filmmaker has found common, if post-apocalyptic, ground.

“Y’know, like a lot of liberal Americans, I was excited when Barack Obama took office four years ago,” Whedon explains, “but it’s a very different world now, and Mitt Romney is a very different candidate — one with the vision and determination to cut through business-as-usual politics and finally put this country back on the path to the zombie apocalypse. Romney is ready to make the deep rollbacks in healthcare, education, social services, reproductive rights that will guarantee poverty, unemployment, overpopulation, disease, rioting — all crucial elements in creating a nightmare zombie wasteland.”

There’s more, of course. And along the way, Whedon gets in a little jab at Ayn Rand devotees, sure to make a few libertarians rethink their interpretations/warm embrace of Firefly.




Yeah, Joss, stick it to those rich one percenters in their mansions and their tax breaks and their ties to large corporations!


Like himself?

Must be nice to make that much money, you can be completely clueless your candidate is completely clueless on how to support small business.

The corporate gifts side our business has lost 60% of its sales for the upcoming holiday season because of we’ve lost all the local banks and other business owners are gearing up for the hit they will take because of Obamacare.

Joss Whedon is my master now.

Whedon should probably just go count his money. I don’t have any money to count, unfortuantly.

Whedon says if we change paths now it will “guarantee poverty [and] unemployment”? But isn’t that the road we’ve been heading down for the last four years?

–The national debt has increased over $5 trillion dollars since Obama took office. The national debt now exceeds $16 trillion. The federal government has just hit its fourth straight trillion-dollar budget deficit.

–There are fewer people working today than when Obama took office.

–The price of a gallon of gas is at least double what it was the day Obama took office.

–Food stamp use is at a record high.

–Median household income is down almost 5 percent since Obama took office.

–Food prices have jumped the most in 36 years.

–The official unemployment rate is 8.3 percent. It was 7.8 percent when Obama took office.

–The labor force participation rate is now the lowest it has been since 1981.

–If the labor force was the same size it was when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 11.2 percent.

–Poverty remains stuck at record levels

Hey Joss, forget Ayn Rand. Here’s some C.S. Lewis:

“We all want progress, but if you’re on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.”

Mon-el – I’m not a US citizen, and I don’t claim to know how accurate those figures are one way or the other, but, even if they are true just spouting those figures out, outside the context of the fact that Obama took office right at the moment of the credit crunch./ banking crisis (or whatever it is the American media calls it), and thus, all those figures were heading negatively when he took office and therefore the question ISN’T necessarily “how did Obama allow this all to happen?”, but more “how did Obama mitigate things getting worse still?”.

Frankly, if you look at some countries in Europe (Greece most notably, but also Ireland, Spain, Italy and Portugal have been very hard hit) you can see what happens when you get things wrong in a banking crisis and to me a lot of those figures you quote seem fairly minor changes, or you don’t state exact figures. Indeed, something like “food stamp use high” isn’t a fundamentally bad thing without specific data, that could mean that he has forced some places to be giving them out to people who should have been getting them to begin with and thus the result is actually more poor people getting the food they need. Which isn’t to say that is the case, but, quoting a statistic like that without specifics is meaningless.

As for your CS Lewis quote, when it comes to the Romney administration, that’s fairly eye rolling when you put that in the context of women’s rights, gay rights and his imbecilic attempts at diplomacy even with countries which are America’s allies and culturally similar (UK), let alone the problem’s he might cause with countries which aren’t allies and aren’t white or christian. I don’t claim Obama is perfect, but generally speaking the rest of the world would much rather have him than Romney.

Also worth noting even though the debts been going up (as it always has for about the past 30 years regardless of president) the deficit actually has gone down since the start of Obama’s time.

Id Prefer our society fall dew to over population, that to be a part of a cizilization that condones the murder of defenseless Babies in the Womb whos only crime is being born.

Wow – you mean a Hollywood TV/Movie director has liberal leanings, I am shocked.

Nothing can make me vote for either of these clowns.

@Lee&@TheBadass900; Dudes in order to make your points you have to be able to string 2 coherent sentences together or maybe 3.You both have failed at this so far.


Whedon is like a mix of Ron Howard and his creepy brother.

@LEE – you seem to be the clueless Hate-mongers chant Obamacare…Conservative = monsters. To hell with you, your racist, sexist, right wing ideology, elitist mentality, anti-gay rhetoric, and the hell spawn Anne Coulter …

Mon-El, you need to back up and look at the real price of gas in 2008. In July of 2008 gas hit a high of $4.12 per gallon. Oil was $147 per barrel. That number that you and other Republicans love to quote of $1.85 per gallon by the year’s end is because the entire economy collapsed (under Bush). The price of oil crashed to about $40 per barrel. Nobody was buying gas.

So while you may be quoting the correct numbers, you are taking the entire thing out of context and only looking at a fraction of what happened.

Hey! Ron Howard’s creepy brother is cool!

And, seriously, is ANYONE who is familiar with Whedon’s work surprised by his politics (which I share), or do you just take it at face value with the vampires and the witches and the laserguns? I’m not saying you have to agree with his leanings, but being surprised (and therefore outraged) by them makes you about as oblivious to subtext as the lifelong X-Men reader who doesn’t see the incongruency of spouting anti-gay views in the ‘Uncanny’ letter columns. You get a pass if you only know his work from ‘Avengers’.

Comic Book Resources got Obama campaign central. Can you F’off and let me not be pummeled with more F’ing propaganda!! If I was concerened about your politics I would never see your great movies. WTF, Just keep making great Avenger movies and reboot the Hulk.

Pedro, if you knew by the subject line that this article was going to have something to do with politics, then why did you read the article?


October 29, 2012 at 11:08 am

Joss, please don’t stir the nerd pot. People don’t think women are portrayed poorly in comics…how are they going to understand economics and politics?!

Bravo, Mr. Whedon. True to form, you have created a masterpiece.

….. Also, where were all the Republicans buying gas on January 19, 2009 that the price per gallon was below $1.90? And why did none of them tell me? Mean.

Alex H…being a non-US citizen you recite euro-lefty rote very well. Not living in the US you appear to be clueless as to the harm Obama and his ilk have caused the American people. I bet you supported OWS didn’t you champ?

Have you heard the term “affordable housing” bandied about by the liberals here Alex? Obama as a Senator and as a “community organizer” lobbied and litigated for it. What it succeeded in doing was having the government force lenders to lower their lending standards to allow those that by all measures wouldn’t be qualified to get loans to now get them. This led to predatory lending. This nation is still trying to take that bad paper off the books…all because you liberals had “good intentions”. And so your “good intentions” led to record foreclosures and record under-employment today.

What exactly did Obama do to turn this around Alex? Stimulus? By all credible measures it’s been a resounding failure. In fact, Obama’s still at a defiicit of jobs, he hasn’t even made up for those lost in 2008/2009. So…more teachers, more bridge and road builders, more “green” jobs” was Obama’s answer then and lo and behold…he hasn’t changed at all now but today it’s in a really cool glossy brochure he released last week.

What about Obamacare Alex? Barry crowed about it coming in under $1trillion and idiots like Wheedon were giddy with elation. Today it’s nearly tripled in cost and the treats don’t even kick in until 2014. Employers are not hiring because of it. Companies are taking write downs because of it.’s the best’s the biggest tax hike on the middle class in US history. The individual mandate forces people to buy insurance or pay fines. Actually..the supreme court deemed it only constitutional if the “fines” are seen as taxes..but Barry still likes to call them fines anyway. And an unelected panel gets to decide how Medicaid care is distributed (because that’s all Obamacare does expands an already nearly insolvent programme..Medicaid)…doesnt’ that make you feel cozy and confident Alex knowing an unelected panel of government beaurocrats will determine what care you get?

But gets better…more people have dropped out of the workforce for having given up looking for work since WWII under little Barry. Do you know why the unemployment appears to go down Alex? Because the BLS doesn’t count those that have given up looking for work. 23 million Americans are either under or unemploymed thanks to Barack Obama’s incompetent handling of the economy. The most since WWII.
And Alex…did you really try to sell the 15 million person increase in food stamps as “maybe this was meant to go to them before and Barry just made it happen”. Really Alex? Is that what you’re going with sport?

Look up a solar panel company called Solyndra Alex…take a good look at how Obama likes to play crony capitalism. But that’s ok..Obama made sure the loan guarantees to Solyndra were subordinated so that his campaign donor could preserve his $75 million investment in the bankrupt company while the tax payer was left holding the bag. Thanks stimulus.

How do you like these stats Alex? Record underemployment-23 million Americans un or underemployed, the slowest recovery from a recession EVER under Barack Obama. The most Americans on food stamps since the depression. Obama’s added $6trillion to the deficit after promising in 2009 to cut it in half by the end of his first term. What do you think Barrys’ chances are of keeping that promise Alex? He’s added more to the debt than all his predecessors combined. Now that’s a record that deserves re-election..just ask Joss Wheedon.

Let’s talk about Benghazi Alex..since Obama doesn’t want to. But he does want to blame a badly made movie for it right? Does Joss want to talk about Benghazi Alex? Of course not. No..he wants to do the usual “Alinsky” routine and ridicule Romney instead.

Thankfully Alex…the American people aren’t relying on your “sage” analysis of Barack Obama or Mon El’s assertions. They’re relying on the fact that Romney is a proven success in business and government.
They’re relying on the fact that they’re husbands and wives and neighbours have been out of work for too long under Barack Obama.
They’re relying on the fact that their average earnings have dropped around $4000 under Barack Obama. They’re relying on the fact that their sons and daughters aren’t finding work after completing college Alex. They’re relying on their own eyes Alex..not yours and not Wheedon’s.
All the momentum is with Romney right now there’s a reason for that Alex..and it’s not because of Joss Wheedon’s snide comments.
Didn’t you wonder why Wheedon has footage of Obama’s bumbling press secretary..the aptly named “Carney” on the Avengers movie Alex? Or that only CNN and the uber-lefty MSNBC were the “news” sources in the montage at the end of the film Alex? Yet..Fox is the most watched cable news network in the country today Alex. Seriously Alex? MSNBC? The network that cropped a photo of a man at a town hall meeting who was carrying a fiream (legal in his state). They cropped it to hide his race..he was black. Then proceeded to run with the “tea parties are racist and dangerous” line around the cropped photo Alex. It’s called propaganda Alex..and Wheedon happily creates it for the useful idiots.

As if I would listen to any thing this ugly weirdo has to say. The Avengers was an over hyped piece of crap as well.

Allen H. Nice way to play the race card. Never fails.
Dave A. Sorry to disappoint you, but it is a fact that when the prices reached $4 under Bush, they went back down before he left office. Oh, and the liberals controlled congress during the crisis. So, everything does seem to be in the right context.
Beast. Sorry bud, but you just disqualified yourself from this conversation. And I still don’t see how pro-choice is somehow anti-woman. We’re just trying to save a baby which has a 50/50 chance of being a woman. I’m not anti-gay, I’m just pro-traditional marriage. I find it ironic that those who preach tolerance are the most intolerant.

Jeez, Tel. So many lies and distortions in one post. Well done. Were you trying to set a record?

JOHN…don’t remind liberals that the democrats in congress held the pursestrings for 2 years before Barack Obama took office..they don’t like being reminded. They just like to recite “it’s Bush’s fault”.

By the way…how many budgets have the democrats passed since then? I mean…it’s only been a financial crisis..what’s the hurry right? Speaking of budgets…why has the Senate UNANIMOUSLY voted against Obama’s laughable budgets? Obama certainly got some bipartisanship there.

CHROMAKING….by all means….point them out for me champ.’s no use doing the old “Alinksy two step” and just calling me a me where I lied sport.

Oops, I meant to say Alex. Guess, I’ll take the heat for that one too.

Here you go CHROMAKING…I’ll use Obama’s own words for you….”And that’s why today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.”. Go ahead champ….make a liar out of me.

Any thoughts on Benghazi CHROMAKING? Let me guess…you’re going to recite Obama’s line right? It’s the movie’s fault or “we’re still waiting on intelligence to come in”.
Meanwhile…Hillary and Barry appear on a commercial in “Pah Kee Stahn” still blaming the movie, that cost the tax payer $90K so as to apologize to the perpetually outraged muslims, some of whom butchered four Americans in Benghazi.
Make me a liar CHROMAKING….please.

Hey Tel… How dare you use the president’s own words and compare them to reality! (Sarcasm)

Sorry to see so many right-wingers posting here in response to Whedon classy move. It’s fine for people to have a different viewpoint, but certainly the Obama presidency has been quite successful when compared to the prior president (the hidden-on-purpose GWB).

What do you think Romney offers that would do better for our country? (actually does he offer anything to help?—-well, that answer is obvious, as tax cuts for the rich is not something that benefits any part of our country—other than the tax-avoiding Romney and his peers…)

Either way, I’m pleased that Josh’s intelligence has not betrayed him when it comes to politics.

JOHN…I could have just got “Alinsky with it” as Wheedon and CHROMAKING have tried, you know..just ridicule and say “liar, liare pants on fire”…but I thought I’d back up what I said..with Obama’s own words.
By the way CHROMAKING..”February 23, 2009″in case you still want to not believe it…..LOL.

Guys, I hope most of you understood that this was satire.

I’ll say something about Benghazi and leave it alone. This has been the BIGGEST cover-up in my lifetime, quite possibly the biggest we’ve ever had. It makes Watergate look like a stroll in the park. The more and more we find out about it, the worse it looks. There was enough intel and this administration just sat back which resulted in the murder of US citizens. Obama needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And everybody associated with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tel — I don’t have as much time on my hands as you obviously do, but how about we start with your whopper that community organizers’ support of affordable housing is somehow the cause of the great recession? That’s so preposterous as to be laughable. Yeah, it wasn’t the greed of an unregulated financial industry that led to crisis. It was the good intentions of *social workers*. Wow.

Also, please tell me what point you think you are making with all this Benghazi arm-waving and teeth-gnashing. What are you driving at? What exactly are you accusing Obama of doing or not doing there? Having bad information or incomplete information? Not acting quickly enough on that information? Organizing the attack with his secret muslim brotherhood? How deep does your conspiracy theory go?

You are so off base that it is all I can do to keep from laughing as I read your post. I mean seriously dude. Turn off FOX News and put down the kool-aid.
toooooo funny!

TONYJAZZ…what does Romney offer? Oh I don’t know…policies that allow business to grow and hire maybe? By the way…manufacturing has been bleeding jobs for months TONE….has Obama done anything to stop it?

Tax cuts for the rich you say? My how lefty and class warfare of you. How about lowering the rate for everyone. and closing loopholes ESPECIALLY FOR THE RICH….that’s actually what Romney has said TONE. Please refrain from reciting media matters approved lines TONE.

I know what’s troubling you TONE…Obama spent millions on ad campaigns trying to paint Romney as a “cold-blooded rich guy” who has no understanding of the poor down trodden slobs like you. Right TONE? The Obama campaign made the strategic blunder of pinning their entire campaign on smearing Romney rather than trying to sell Obama’s abysmal record.

It worked for a while..but then the first debate happened didn’t it? Ouch..right TONE?

All of a sudden David Axelrod and David Plouffe’s and Stephanie Cutter’s (look them up) campaign hit a wall. All of a sudden the media couldnt’ hide Mitt Romney from the public and the public liked what it saw. Ever since then..the momentum has been all in Romney’s favour. He’s not a monster, he’s not a Gordon Gecko as Obama wanted him painted. He’s a likable man with a clear grasp of economics (unlike Barack Obama) and the American people have repsonded to it.
Ever since then it’s been “Romney’s a liar, liar pants on fire” from the lefties in a desperate attempt to stop the bleeding.

Haha, wow. Chromaking They had seven hours. They were told by Libya in advance that more security was needed. Those who could have helped were told to stand down. Need I go on?

Did Obama do as he promised and cut the deficit? Nope. And I for one am extremely disappointed by that. But do I think Obama’s appeal to voters for another shot at it is more convincing than Romney’s? Yep. You’ve obviously got another opinion. Fair enough. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how that all works out.

John — no need. I can’t hear your dog whitle anyway.

haha … sigh. “whistle”

I can see you’re defeated CHROMAKING…I didn’t say “the community orgainisers” I said Obama AS a community organizer. Yes..he lobbied for lower lending standards as a lawyer and a senator. Shall I post it to make you look even more of an idiot?

Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices.”

But by all means CHROMAKING….look up the tactics his beloved ACORN tried a few years protesting in banks to get them to lower their lending standards. This isn’t made up’s reality.

You”ve lost this argument CHROMAKING because you never had a grasp of the realities in the first place.

CHROMAKING…Obama INCREASED the deficit by $6trillion…he didnt’ even attempt to halve it as he promised the beguiled like you. You bought it hook line and sinker.

Power to most the people

October 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm

Regardless if you agree or disagree with he’s perspective, it’s a well done piece.
Spam does have it’s on key! Hmmmmmm? LOL.
Now I’m going to go watch “the Avengers” for the 1 billionth time,….. not really I tried of it a month ago. :D

Come on MIKE W…don;’t “Alinsky” with me…tell me where I’m wrong champ. Help out your buddy CHROMAKING..he’s hurting here.

Tel — Who the heck is this Alinsky person you seem obsessed with? And you’re delusional if you think this is a debate. You can rant on and on all you like. I’m just here to point out that I’m not buying your nonsense. You can claim that my refusal to waste hours fact-checking your statements for you, only to have you ignore them or respond with reams of further bogus statements, equates my surrender, but really I’ve just got better things to do. My only regret here is feeding the troll in the first place. Best of luck Nov 6, pal. You’ll need it.

Hilarious that the 4 of the looney anti-American right-wingers who read comics commented on Whedon’s fantastic video. America is a LIBERAL country, like all of the western world. Democracy is liberal, Christianity is liberal, and America is liberal. Always was, always will be, as long as it exists–liberalism is what America is all about. Superhero comics are about heroes who protect liberal values. The lunatic conservative right, has maintained a constant attack on liberalism ever since they lost World War II in Europe, thanks to American liberal intervention. People out there need to remember that freedom isn’t free and that they need to stand up to the “conservative” right-wingers who hate liberalism and hate America, including Romney and the craven gang, as Ralph Nader calls them, that that the Republican party has become.

JOHN….the security crews on the ground in Benghazi asked for help and were told to stand down three times. Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods disobeyed orders and saved many lives there before losing his own.
The Obama administration was watching this happening in real time by security drones for at least 7 hours. They were told it was a terrorist attack. Instead the first response was to blame a poorly crafted anti-Mohammed movie on You Tube. Tyrone Woods’ own father said Hillary Clinton approached him at his son’s funeral and told him they’d arrest the film maker. The administration paid $90K for airtime in “Pah Kee Stahn” to run an ad apologizing to the perpetually outragaged muslims for the You Tube movie. This absolutely stinks of cover-up.

Ambassador Stevens in Libya asked for more security, the adminstration instead reduced it. As a result he was sodomized and beaten to death by the terrorists there. I’m sure our precious Joss is just like the useful idiots here and completely oblivious to all this. “la, la, la I can’t hear you”.
There’s rumours of arms shipments to Syria and it could well be “Fast and Furious” Libya style but we need more evidence for that.

But we’re seeing a cover-up taking place, Americans have been butchered by terrorists in Benghazi while Obama prints bumper stickers “Osama’s dead and GM is alive”.

Oh and CHROMAKING…keep whistling past the graveyard champ..Rasmussen is reporting that Ohio just went Romney 50%….LOL.

Let’s dial the rhetoric back several notches. This thread passed “readable” about a dozen comments ago.

Really can’t improve on Anthony Gregory here on the utter hypocrisy of Obama supporters:

But Barack Obama is really what has made the left-liberal illusion fold under the weight of its own absurdity. Here we had the perfect paragon of left-liberal social democracy. He beat the centrist Hillary Clinton then won the national election. He had a Democratic Congress for two years. He had loads of political capital by virtue of following a completely failed and unpopular Republican administration. The world welcomed him. The center cheered him. And what did he do?

He shoveled money toward corporate America, banks and car manufacturers. He championed the bailouts of the same Wall Street firms his very partisans blamed for the financial collapse. He picked the CEO of General Electric to oversee the unemployment problem. He appointed corporate state regulars for every major role in financial central planning. After guaranteeing a new era of transparency, he conducted all his regulatory business behind a shroud of unprecedented secrecy. He planned his health care scheme, the crown jewel of his domestic agenda, in league with the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.

He continued the war in Iraq, even extending Bush’s schedule with a goal of staying longer than the last administration planned. He tripled the U.S. presence in Afghanistan then took over two years to announce the eventual drawdown to bring it back to only double the Bush presence. He widened the war in Pakistan, launching drone attacks at a dizzying pace. He started a war on false pretenses with Libya, shifting the goal posts and doing it all without Congressional approval. He bombed Yemen and lied about it.

He enthusiastically signed on to warrantless wiretapping, renditioning, the Patriot Act, prison abuse, detention without trial, violations of habeas corpus, and disgustingly invasive airport security measures. He deported immigrants more than Bush did. He increased funding for the drug war in Mexico. He invoked the Espionage Act more than all previous presidents combined, tortured a whistleblower, and claimed the right to unilaterally kill any U.S. citizen on Earth without even a nod from Congress or a shrug from the courts.

The left-liberals who stand by this war criminal and Wall Street shill have made their choice: better to have the militarism and police state, so long as it means a little more influence over domestic politics, even if that too is compromised by corporate interference, than it is to embrace a radical antiwar agenda that might complicate their domestic aspirations.

By the way CHROMAKING..I’m not debating you nor am I attempting to educate you. You’re too far gone for any of that. I called your bluff when you did what every liberal troll does around here…you called me a liar without even a shred of proof and when I used Obama’s own words and record against you…you ran screaming into the night with the foppish..”I don’t feed the trolls”. You remember that line that Kurt Russell says as Wyatt Earp in “Tombstone”..”so run you cur”? LOL.
“President Romney”..get used it champ.

pathetic video.

…more proof that the left wing in this country is so full of themselves that they dont see how THEY have contributed so heavily to the mess we are in.

“reproductive rights” ????? really???

…..yet the left wing in this country, funded by the big corporate left wing hollywood elite ala Mr. Whedon et al, have consistently denied babies surviving to full term and being born since…hmmm….oh what…1972. ???

…and you know what? we would have had Social Security and the illegal immigrant problems as none-issues if all those babies were ALLOWED to be born and reach adulthood. Many of those babies were not crack babies but babies from parents who simply had the “choice” to end the babies right to life and existence.

Also, women have been short changed since more girls are born than boys and more girls have been aborted then boys. We became abortionist China before China did.

…not too mention all the STDs we ALL have to pay for because the left simply tells everyone, “be sexually promiscuous” “have more than one partner” and “do whatever you want, because big sugar daddy & mommy govt will bail you out…”.

…but what the bloody left doesnt tell anyone is the STD’s dont just disappear overnight.

In some cases an STD scars a person for life.

The left is miserable because of all the bad decisions they have chosen to make and misery enjoys company so they cause other more impressionable people to also make the bad decisions and thereby rely on big daddy govt to be their savior.

Well that savior has a price that will take away your individual rights & life and last but not the least, take away your $$$.

yes GW Bush definitely screwed up, and i wlll be the first to say so, but Obama screwed up even more. He know what the problem was but he has only made it worse by continuing them and creating new problems.

Its not just the right wing that is fed up with him, the left wing finds he is just a clone of the worse excesses of G. Bush.

Obama is Bush-lite and some cases Bush-prime.

…the only one who has HELPED created a zombie apocalypse is Mr Whedon and his left wing hollywood “friends” along with the the compassionate conservatism of GW Bush who wanted to guarantee loans for bad credit risks and then bail out the defaults, not to mention not knowing how to intelligently & economically fight the war on terrorism.

Whedon is pathetic. Yes i greatly enjoy his artworks and will continue to support him, but I sure as h*ll know that Whedon doesnt know a rat’s *ss about politics and what is good for this country.

“Dear mr. Whedon, i already think you’re an overrated asshole, no need for reinforcement.”

Right on right on Tel… thanks for giving the actual events. It puts a much great light on the situation. Sadly it is a dark secret that is revealed. I wish facts did more to convince people.
Dark Rabbit. Good stuff. I liked Bush better in his earlier years, but he started spending too much. But hey, I’d rather have him than Obama any day.

Reverend Meteor

October 29, 2012 at 1:32 pm

I’d prefer to abort half of the babies if it cut down on overpopulation.

Reverend, We’re not overpopulated yet. All we have is mismanagement of resources.

“yes GW Bush definitely screwed up, and i wlll be the first to say so, but Obama screwed up even more. ”

dark rabbitt, it’s hard to take you seriously when you say something so absolutely illogical and factually incorrect.


I don’t know who at Robot 6 wrote this article about Joss Whedon’s satirical political message, but I’d like to comment on this line, “Whedon gets in a little jab at Ayn Rand devotees, sure to make a few libertarians rethink their interpretations/warm embrace of Firefly.”

Not all libertarians are followers of Ayn Rand. I’m a libertarian who has no use for Ayn Rand’s Objectivist nonsense. Instead, I adhere to the libertarian ideas as presented by Henry David Thoreau in “Civil Disobedience” and by Emma Goldman in all of her writing (anarchism is a type of libertarianism, so Emma Goldman was indeed a libertarian). I also place a great deal of stock in the libertarian concepts of William Godwin and Mary Wollstonecraft,

On the other hand, I don’t care for FIREFLY at all–though, to be honest, I’ve never gotten past the first ten minutes of the first episode (twice) before turning it off and never giving it another chance.


That’s an interesting screen name you have there. I assume you meant the middle word to be “than” rather than “then” but then I thought that perhaps you were setting up a particular sequence, such as:

First comes “better”
Then comes “you”

On the other hand, you could just be showing yourself to be worse than most of the people posting on this message board. You should change your screen name to “Worse Than You.”

Whedon’s AVENGERS was the first of his projects I actually enjoyed. It wasn’t the best superhero movie–it has some minor flaws–but it was pretty good for the most part.


so prove me wrong instead of “innuendo”. right?

it’s hard to take you seriously when you say something so absolutely illogical and factually incorrect.

Obama quadrupled the national debt. instead of an insult, prove me wrong. Unemployment is over 10% if you INCLUDE those who have fallen OFF the unemployment roles. Food stamp usage has increased almost 30-50% during his presidency.

Right now Obama is cratering.

There is a reason.

The same people who voted for him in 08 are NOT going to re-elect him in 2012.


Because Obama has made things WORSE.


Bob, please prove me wrong.

You are simply terrible at lying and throwing insults.

Nobody wants to listen to you here. Obviously, you are a troll. Your attitude got our country into this mess. Listen to Whedon. Think about the intelligence required to put together a masterpiece like Avengers and then try and secondguess what most intelligent and educated people know: Obama did the best he could with an obstructionist group of Republicans in Congress, who, even when the Democrats had both houses, filibustered whenever possible.

You don’t have to worry about Romney keeping his promises. If he is elected, he has made promises each way for just about every issue, so will keep at least one for each issue.

Again, kudos to Whedon.

Are you joking? Werehawk. Obama got everything he wanted. He got his stimulus, he got his obamacare, he got everything and the republicans could only watch while he threw his agenda down our throats. Next time you say something, look at facts please, and the fact of the matter is, Obama got what he wanted.

Dark rabbit — Obama did not “quadruple the national debt”. At the close of business on Jan. 20, 2009, according to the U.S. Treasury, the total debt of the federal government was $10,626,877,048,913.08. Today, the debt stands at $16,215,650,000,000 (give or take) —an increase of about $5.6 T. The truth is bad enough — making up numbers just hurts your case.

My reason for not supporting Obama is simple: the same “jack-holes” who created the financial meltdown of 2009 have not been held accountable, and won’t be because Attorney General Eric Holder “dropped” any pending litigation against these guys. In fact, most of them are donors to the Obama campaign, and every last member of the Obama Administration’s economic team came from, or have a connection to, Goldman-Sachs, the center of the housing crisis. Why would I want to vote for man if the criminals who nearly collapsed the economy are getting away with murder?


Thank you for your post.

You have served your purpose well.

Like you posted:

“Today, the national debt is $16,015,769,788,215.80 (as of 8/31/12 — US Department of the Treasury,, accessed 9/4/12). It was $10,626,877,048,913.08 when Obama became president. That is an increase of more than a five and one-half trillion dollars (50 percent) during in the forty-two months of the Obama presidency.”

Now that we agreed there was an increase under Pres. Obama, lets agree on the percentage increase shall we? Obama, instead of doing what he said he PROMISED to do, which was “go line by line” and cross out what he saw as wasteful in the National Budget, he PILED ON more waste and more debt. 50% more than Bush.

So Obama AND Bush AND Whedon broke their promises. Any candidate, whether its a Bush or Obama or Whedon, who breaks his promise needs to be called out for it and it is a negative mark on his campaign/job.

The National Debt from Washington to Clinton was at $5.3 Trillion. The last four years the National Debt has been $6 Trillion under a far left wing presidency of Obama and Whedon. Had enough?

sad but true, but Whedon and Obama ARE causing the coming zombie apocalypse.

The left and some of the right, are numbed into not seeing the coming bankruptcy of the USA under a socialistic left wing or a socialistic right wing presidency.

I would like to point out that speaking your lines while moving cookware from the stove to the sink, and not ruining the take with a bunch of clanging and bashing, is very, very difficult. I think Mr. Whedon did an excellent job and no, I don’t believe he ‘fixed it in post’.

Wow. That kind of exploded before I looked back.

Tel: I’m not sure how any of that even relates to what I said which more or less amounted to “those figures don’t necessarily mean anything in context of already declining markets” and you basically exploded into some massive ramble on topics that I never mentioned that don’t even connect with my comment. Which isn’t to say none of them have merit (I don’t claim to be fully informed, not my country after all to pay attention to these in detail), just I don’t even see why you are essaying them at me in the first place.

I’d also add, that both what I said and for that matter, what Whedon said, weren’t phrased as overt endorsements for Obama – this is a choice of two people/parties you have here ahead of you, and while I (and I assume Whedon) prefer Obama, the point of each was more that we consider Romney a dangerously poor alternative. I am not against conservative candidates, produce a good one and I’ll happily hear them out (and might agree with them on some fiscal points), I’m just against rubbish candidates of any leaning – didn’t vote Gordon Brown (the incubant left candidate in the UK last election) back into office over here for exactly that reason.

Whedon endorses Romney (and his vision for zombie apocalypse). What does Whedon think of 16 trillion in debt, social welfare European economics collapsing countries Obama wants the USA to be & his children and his children’s children having to pay for his Messiah Obama’s total failure? Whedon is all for it. Whedon needs to stick to making movies and tv shows only; Whedon does not have a clue about real life.

What I love the most about brainwashed Obamaniacs? When you challenge them with the truth they gasp and snort and resort to “your mama” style comments.

But guess what will be happening on November 6th? You will see the lot of them outside, red-faced and sweaty, screaming their obscenities at the clouds.

And I will be wondering… what about the Tolerance you preach? What about the Love?

You folks make me laugh… I would be hardpressed to find an original thinker in the bunch.

Is it too late to pencil in “Lex Luthor” for President?

Good lord, I can’t wait until we’re done with this election season and some of you folks can crawl back under the rocks you came from. Repub congress vows to do everything in their power to make this a one-term presidency, and you all are shocked that Obama couldn’t do everything he said he would. Let’s put all the blame on the one who tries instead of the many who push back. I’m sick of this noise.

@Other Chris

…and yet Obama had BOTH Houses of Congress from 2008 UNTIL 2010 and he did nothing but INCREASE the debt with the massive Obamacare law.

Obama wasted his power to cause MORE debt.

The Repub House of Representatives (not both houses of Congress, the Democrats, BTW, control the Senate) stopped the debt hemorrhage.

In fact you should be grateful because you and I will now not have more of Obama’s debt to pay off, due to the Repub House of Representatives stopping more of Obama’s & the Democrats’ wasteful socialistic spending.

Also, since Obama has been President, not one Democrat has voted for HIS BUDGET.

So no one prevented Obama from fixing this mess.

Obama screwed it all up on his own.

@Alex H

you said: “we consider Romney a dangerously poor alternative” ??? how much more dangerous can you get than Obama???

Romney successfully worked with the Democrat controlled houses of Massachusetts plus several corporations plus the Olympics. In all cases he turned his state/companies/Olympics debt into a surplus, improved education and health insurance. WTH is so hard to understand about that???

also, no one was killed due to gun running whether in the US/Mexico or in Libya.

so the comment “we consider Romney a dangerously poor alternative” isnt based on facts but feelings with no basis in reality.

just sayin..thats why Whedon thinks he is being cerebral but really his video isnt helping the political discourse as to what has been wrong with the federal govt for the last 4 yrs. In fact he is the one acting like a zombie by rambling on about the coming conservative apocalyptic disaster for the country when in fact Obama & the left have crushed the middle class and Romney’s experience is one of freeing the individual to enable him/her to reach his/her full potential, as in Massachusetts.


“Reverend, We’re not overpopulated yet. All we have is mismanagement of resources.” America is overpopulated by one third. If it wasn’t, we would have a trade deficit. Any country that imports a significant amount of food and energy from abroad has a population that can not be supported without consuming resources from elsewhere.

The current global population of seven billion people is ONLY possible because of fossil fuels. We’re almost done burning the high quality fossil fuels. The high quality fossil fuels of most importance are the supplies of cheap petroleum that were once present in the United States, Britain, and Mexico. Saudi Arabia has the world’s largest supply of low-cost petroleum and experts suggest that its oil fields will run into decline in the next five to ten years.

The petroleum that’s left such as oil shale, “tight oil “, kerogen, or “unconventional oil” takes a lot more energy to take out of the ground. Any oil from “unconventional oil” sources will be more expensive to extract. In the meantime, oil demand is surging. Demand pushes up price. Almost all economic activity correlates with oil consumption. I can’t think of anything not made with oil or that doesn’t use an oil-based product. Therefore, every time the economy grows, oil prices will increase.

Renewable energy will not allow civilization to keep seven billion people alive, won’t allow any of today’s technology to really survive, or anything like that. People will have to go back to farming if possible (if global warming is anywhere near as bad as scientists are predicting, a lot of current arable land will turn into arid land) or practice cannibalism (which eventually leads to extinction).

The main thing that’s happened here, is that humans have let technology spoil them, have invented ideologies, to prevent them from realizing the Industrial Revolution is no different than a person with poor impulse control coming into possession of a million dollars.* No doubt, the person will squander all the money away, and will end up worse condition both materially and spiritually than where that person was before he/she came into possession of that money.

The million dollars is deposits of finite fossil fuels.

I wonder if the current popularity of zombies is an expression of a deep subconscious fear of famine-ravished region of a civilized society succumbing to cannibalism out of desperation for food. It’s happened several times throughout history , is probably happening right now is some regions where there is extreme poverty, and will definitely happen again. It’s not really a sustainable activity, has a lot of correlation to psychopathy (which can become much higher than normal in really bad conditions) Psychopathy itself is probably another perverse survival trait since it has yet to disappear from the human race. Nature is all about survival. If you are psychopathic male and you kill one neighbor, eat him and his male offspring,rape his woman, and you force her to bear your offspring, in evolutionary terms, you win. . . Until you and your offspring/kin run out of people to eat. Psychopathy among women is much rarer than among men, but from what I read, a female psychopath can get away with a lot before anyone begins to suspect she could be capable of cruelty.

*sigh* Shut up and write/direct mediocre movies.

It’s all smoke and mirrors. The people on top keep us divided over issues that distract us from the bigger picture. Generally speaking, we’re only concerned with what they can do for us and our own special interests and personal agendas. But, at the end of the day, Obama and Romney will still be wealthy and their healthcare, family security, and children’s education will be paid for with our blood, sweat, and tears while we struggle and scrape to make a decent living. Career politians like them are raping and pillaging this nation and the general populace is too blind to take notice. People like Joss Whedon are no better. He’s one of many who uses his celebrity status to influence and sway fans to think his way. Whether I agree with him or not, how dare he tell me how to vote. No matter who becomes president, it will not affect him and his fat bank account the way it will affect many of us. What we need to do is learn to table our differences and work together to first and foremost fix the financial mess we’re in, or nothing else matters.

LOL @ Tel… (&few others)long lecture
what is this place?campaign blog? :-D

Wow…. It would be one thing if some of these political posters did more than name-calling and actually had some logic to their arguments.

Dark rabbitt and Tel are both ‘very special people’. (Aren’t people like them the reason that GWBush could get re-elected in the first place?)

This isn’t a political site, and (unfortunately or fortunately) the posters here demonstrate the reason it remains not….

M.R only cares for the rich he doesnt care for america lol. If ur not rich dont vote for mr

if you can’t see that Romney and Obama are the same people then you’re a blind fool and you deserve the crashed economy and stripped civil rights that is coming down the line at us. if you actually see the truth, please stand up and do something about it. don’t vote for either romney or obama. bunch of freakin liars only interested in their own bank accounts and bomb shelters.

Everyone of you realizes that there’s a conspiracy surrounding this election. Microsoft (the corporation that makes things) is selling a product with a certain Mjolnir clad hero on Nov. 6. They are going to see that the young demographic’s vote is worth nothing. See a conspiracy. PROVE ME WRONG. To address Sir Whedon’s Zombie Apocalypse stuff: it makes for great comics and tv adaptations. Buy UNCANNY AVENGERS AND ANYTHING ELSE BY REMENDER.

@ Dark Rabbit – If we are going into this, fiscally I don’t think he is necessarily any worse than any other candidate, I don’t claim to have read the details of his spending proposals enough to be able to give a detailed critique and as I don’t get to vote anyway I can’t be particularly bothered to read up on them at this second. What I do have a problem with is are the following three things:

1) He’s enormously socially regressive to the point where he wants to effectively reduce the rights of or prevent from equality over 50% of your population. His views on the rights of both women and homosexuals are offensively dated. Yes I’m aware that there are obviously significant numbers of anti-abortion women in the world, but the point is that this is Mitt Romney deciding it’s the governments role to decide what women do with their own bodies and what people you can have a relationship with.

2) He’s already managed to prove himself inept and insularist as a diplomat – being president in the modern world means dealing with hundreds of countries, not all of whom like you, and if he can’t keep his mouth shut long enough to not offend countries that are allies of the US, god knows what mayhem he’ll trigger with countries that don’t like the US.

3) On a lot of subjects he seems to just say what he thinks people want him to say – I have no problem with someone who develops their views into something different, but the way Romney has done it suggests to me he doesn’t really have a plan in the first place and is just saying whatever it takes to win the election even at the expense of internal consistency, and the last thing you need right now is a guy without a plan.

Other people have implied other things I think also count against him, but as I am not familiar with them I won’t bring them up here.

is anyone surprised by the number of Romney lovin Comic book fans. All you have to do is put a minority or woman on a super team like JLA or Avengers..and these same people lose their minds.

Willard Romney..( Yup his first name isnt even Mitt) said Govt cant create JOBS. Then he turns around and says when Im in GOVT ( control of GOVT) I ill create jobs.

Which is it Willard?

One day people will learn that the office of president is nothing more than a cop, it is his job to enforce the law of the land, it is not his job to create jobs, cut spending, or almost anything else they promise they will do. While the whole country is fighting it out about who should take office all the career congressmen and women are laughing their asses off because they know that know one has paid attention to the fact that they are who we should be calling out. You want change, let’s change congress 100%. The problem is only half at anytime can change. While I know there have been some great men and women who have been voted into office and really want to make a change for good, but once they get into office they are influenced by the people who have really been pulling strings for decades. No president can get any REAL change passed because Congress is only in it for themselves, who two of the four measures passed in the passed four years were pay incresses for themselvesm there is a problem.

In 2004, I recall everyone having a problem with John Kerry because of flip flopping (I was right there with you, not old enough to vote yet at that point but I understood the general point). Now when your guy is the flip flopper, suddenly it’s okay.

In the entirety of his political career prior to 2006, Mitt Romney was liberal on gun control. He even stated he wasn’t in line with the NRA. In 2006, he joined the NRA as a life member. That’s the same year he entered the picture as a presidential hopeful – As a member of the NRA myself, this tells me he doesn’t stand for my second amendment, he just uses it as a pivot point to win at whatever stage he’s on at the time. Gun control is one of those issues where you don’t realistically change the mind of someone who cares. Either you see value in the second amendment and a personal right to bear arms or you do not.

The only cases I’ve heard of where people change viewpoints is if they or a loved one are negatively impacted by either a crime where being armed would have protected them, or in the event where a gun was used against them and they therefore decide guns are evil. Neither of those is true of Romney to my knowledge. I’ve heard people say “maybe he was pro gun all along and just doing what he had to do in order to get elected in a liberal state” – that’s my point, he’s willing to say and do what it takes to get elected, as if that is a merit on which someone deserves to be elected. There is a difference between being wrong for the right reasons (which is what I feel has been the case with some Obama policies) and just flat out saying whatever you need to say to the current audience in order to get their support.

When you add that in with his Mormonism, it becomes a scary scenario for me. Even in comparison to other religions (which are generally insane), Mormonism is INCREDIBLY insane. Invented as recently as the 19th century? Check. A series of special handshakes with god to help you get to the planet Kolob? Check. Sacred underwear? Check. Oath of vengeance against the American People and the US Government for the death of Joseph Smith as a major part of their religion for a significant part of its history? Check. Just saying.


Yu have both proven bigotry is alive and well in 21 century USA.

Really guys prove one thing you posted is even remotely tru.

the left is so far gone & imploding its sad.

To think the lefty comic lovers think they are so “tolerant” of those they disagree with. reread what you posted to justify your anger and your vote for Obama and really think where you are right now with those you disagree with. do you have to go that low?

If it wasnt for the center right of the USA we would all be anti-religious communists.

really, its that bad from all the hate I see the left is throwing this & the last election cycle.

if you are any kind of minority in this country, female, gay, black, or hispanic, and decide to vote for a republican, or a conservative or any other center right candidate you will be leveled with bigotry, lies and hate.

All the pro-romney folks have posted is facts & statistics based on numbers listed on reputable websites from all levels of the political spectrum.

the natonal debt, unemployment and food stamp numbers are all FACT. all i read of what you guys posted is hate, lies & bigotry.

stop with the hate and post fact. Whedon should have known better with this propaganda video. not an ounce nor shred of fact in it.

really really sad.

dark rabbitt –

Everything I posted regarding the NRA and gun control is a matter of record. My conclusions are logical based on the record.

My opinion about Mormonism is that it is an insane belief system, in that it is not grounded in reality or rationality. I supported my opinion/assertion again, with facts about Mormonism.

It would be pretty difficult to provide one specific instance where I stated something that was false or unsupported. I welcome you to correct specific instances in which I was errant, but you haven’t really done that.

I wasn’t defending Obama, and wasn’t refuting anything anyone previously said. I was stating my own opinion about certain places where I find Romney to be weak. If you can’t defend him, don’t just call me a liar as a substitution. Address what I said or do not address me. This is how adults debate.

The following posts are from a life long Democrat Bryna Franklin and Oliver Stone, who both voted for Obama in 2008. enjoy. see what the left is saying about Obama.

Whedon may be creative but he s far from truthful.

Why I’m switching to Romney this election

It is precisely because of my belief in the longtime ideals of the Democratic Party that I feel the responsibility to speak out now.

I am a former chairperson of Democrats Abroad Israel, and was an official delegate to the 1992 National Democratic Convention. In all of my 80 years, I have never before voted for a Republican for president. But this time around, I am not only proudly voting for Mitt Romney, but feel compelled to encourage others to do the same.

I grew up in a Reform Jewish family in Missouri, and came of age politically as a proud Democrat due to the inspiration of my native-son president, Harry Truman. I have been involved in Democratic Party politics for many years in both America and Israel, including serving as vice chairperson of the Franklin County Democratic Central Committee in Missouri.

It is precisely because of my belief in the longtime ideals of the Democratic Party that I feel the responsibility to speak out now.

Why? First, because we ask in each presidential cycle, “Are we better off now than we were four years ago?” This year, the answer is a resounding “NO!” But even more troubling, in so many ways, President Barack Obama has betrayed the ideals of the great Democratic Party. He is a poor successor to Truman’s legacy.

No Democratic president has ever been so fiscally irresponsible. President Clinton worked together with Congress to balance the budget and erase the deficit; President Obama has run trillion-dollar deficits every year, and we are now $6 trillion deeper in debt than when he was elected. Over 40 cents of every dollar we now spend is borrowed from China.

Future generations are being saddled with this burden.

Past Democratic administrations have records of high economic growth and high employment. Yet, under Obama, millions more Americans are without jobs than before he took office, and half of recent college graduates are unable to find work. Far too many of the jobs that Obama claims to have created or saved are in the public sector, and small businesses, the backbone of our economy, are hurting. Property values have not rebounded, and home foreclosures continue at a frightening pace.

On the international level, President Obama has proven himself to be a weak leader. Where has any of his diplomacy succeeded? Presidents Truman and Kennedy stood strong against the tyrannies of their time; President Obama bows down to the king of Saudi Arabia, and does not stand up to the president of Iran.

DEMOCRATS BELIEVE in furthering human rights and promoting liberty around the world. But Obama completely misreads the international scene. He called Syria’s Assad a “reformer,” yet has remained silent as Assad slaughters his own people. He abandoned president Hosni Mubarak to the Egyptian mobs. In addition, he allowed the Muslim Brotherhood to take control, not only threatening Israel but also terrorizing Egypt’s minorities.

Nowhere has President Obama failed to live up to Democratic ideals more than in his relationship with democratic Israel. From his creation of “daylight” between our countries to constant public criticism of Israeli policy – does Obama do this to any other country? – Obama has allowed severe deterioration of our special relationship just as Israel and the world face extreme danger.

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S open hostility to Israel’s prime minister, and his insulting true feelings caught on an open microphone, indicate antipathy towards the citizens of Israel. Obama’s administration does not even maintain symbolic gestures: at the recent opening of the United Nations Assembly, the United States sat and listened to the address by the president of Iran, yet Ambassador Rice was absent during the entire presentation by Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. This wasn’t lost on the leaders of Israel’s enemies.

Coming from Missouri, I take immense pride that President Truman had the courage, conviction and moral compass to recognize the nascent state of Israel. By comparison, President Obama has steered our relationship to an abysmal low.

In reviewing the above, I see no choice but to switch sides and cast my vote for the Republican candidate for President Mitt Romney, who better embodies our Democratic ideals. I ask you to join me.

The writer is the former chair of Democrats Abroad Israel and a lifelong Democrat. She is a Missouri native, and currently lives in Jerusalem.

Oliver Stone’s new book rips President Obama
By: Katie Glueck
October 29, 2012 07:14 AM EDT

A new book from filmmaker Oliver Stone offers a scathing critique of President Barack Obama’s time in office.

Stone, who wrote “The Untold History of the United States” with historian Peter Kuznick, puts forth a liberal interpretation of American history from the turn of the last century to present day. The 618-page book, slated for release Tuesday – a week before Election Day – from Gallery Books, slams Republicans and Democrats alike, and the authors’ assessment of Obama’s presidency is tinged with disappointment.

“The country Obama inherited was indeed in shambles, but Obama took a bad situation and, in certain ways, made it worse,” Stone and Kuznick wrote. “…[R]ather than repudiating the policies of Bush and his predecessors, Obama has perpetuated them.”

Obama’s election “felt like a kind of expiation for the sins of a nation whose reputation had been sullied, as we have shown throughout this book, by racism, imperialism, militarism, nuclearism, environmental degradation and unbridled avarice,” they wrote.

But on subjects from Wall Street reform to health care to Afghanistan, Stone and Kuznick rip Obama for breaking campaign promises and continuing the policies of President George W. Bush — who’s roundly condemned throughout the book. In some instances, they write, Obama went further than Bush’s White House toward anti-progressive policies.

“Obama asserted presidential power in ways that must have made Dick Cheney jealous,” they wrote.

“In 2011, Obama defied his own top lawyers, insisting that he did not need congressional approval under the War Powers Resolution to continue military activities in Libya,” they continued, in their write-up of Obama’s handling of intervention in that country.

An accompanying documentary series is set to air on Showtime starting Nov. 12.

Stone said in 2008 that he backed Obama, but earlier this year said that he would support GOP Rep. Ron Paul over Obama if he could.

The biting criticism from Stone and Kuznick includes:

On Wall Street reform: “The biggest winner under Obama was Wall Street.”

On health care: “Obama’s failure to articulate a progressive vision was also apparent in the fight over health reform, which was to have been his signature initiative…Obama’s health care reform effort, marked by the inability to even refute Republican charges of death panels, was so unpopular that it became an albatross around the necks of Democrats in the 2010 election.”

On a troop surge in Afghanistan: “When it finally came down to decision time, Obama didn’t have the courage or integrity of a post-Cuban Missile Crisis John F. Kennedy. He settled on a 30,000-troop increase, giving the military leaders almost everything they wanted and more than they expected.”

On civil liberties: “Among the greatest disappointments to his followers was Obama’s refusal to roll back the expanding national security state that so egregiously encroached on American civil liberties.”

On ‘imperialism’: “[He] was not offering a decisive break with over a century of imperial conquest. His was a centrist approach to better managing the American empire rather than advancing a positive role for the United States in a rapidly evolving world.”

On defense spending: “While cutting defense spending, pulling combat forces out of Iraq and beginning the drawdown in Afghanistan represented a welcome retreat from they hypermilitarism of the Bush-Cheney years, they did not represent the sharp and definitive break with empire that the world needed to see from the United States.”


^again with the looong lecture:yawn:
seriously,at this far,everyone already made up their minds,if there are so-called”undecided voter”,they will not go to a comicbook site for advice:-D
,beside what fact is in Whedon video anyway?its called SATIRE dummy

Dark rabitt has issues, doesn’t he….. sad…..saddened

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