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‘Sexy’ ‘Hawken’ prank shifts focus to gender in comics, games

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While an anonymous employee of Hawken video game developer Meteor Entertainment acknowledges she has a pretty amazing job — great product, “top notch” gender awareness — one thing got under her skin: a poster-sized piece of comic art for the game outside the office of CEO Mark Long featuring a scantily clad female mechanic she dubbed “Ruby Underboob” (above left).

As she relates on The Hawkeye Initiative, after “grinding my teeth into tiny shards,” she turned to co-worker Sam Kirk to create a second image, this one featuring a scantily clad male mechanic named Brosie the Riveter. On April Fool’s Day, they sneaked into the CEO’s office, switched the posters and waited for a reaction.

And they received one — first a loud “What the hell is this?” from Long, and then an unexpected admission. “That was a brilliant prank,” she quotes the CEO as saying. “You called me on exactly the bullshit I need to be called on. I put up pictures of half-naked girls around the office all the time and I never think about it. I’m taking you and Sam to lunch. And after that, we’re going to hang both prints, side by side.”

There’s much more at The Hawkeye Initiative, where the employee relates, “Mark and I are now in an open dialogue about gender in comics and gaming.”

(via Kotaku)

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96 Comments

Um… ok?

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 11:43 am

This is so lame. God forbid a boss put something he likes on the wall of his own company. PC Police are on the case!

And how the hell does underboob of a woman in shorts and small shirt compare with a guy solely wearing underwear?

That’ll teach him ……. something. I guess. Ha?

Skin is evil!

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 11:51 am

That will teach him to be attracted to women and decorate his own office!

Matty Macomber

May 15, 2013 at 12:02 pm

Oh, Richard C. Meyer. A CEO is not just a boss. If Mark Long wants to be called on this, it’s not PC policing.

Brosie’s a total But-His-Face (I keed! lol)

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:06 pm

His initial reaction was most likely the real one. The reaction 20-minutes later was after talking to his lawyer and HR managers and seeing the risk of a lawsuit.

What she did was BS. It’s passive-aggressive thought-policing. She said that he was a cool guy. I’m sure he tolerated all kinds of things he didn’t like in people’s work area. But she was intolerant of him. He sounds like the type who whould have an Open Door policy, because she decided to publicly shame him knowing how nervous people get around gender politics.

I would have fired her on the spot.

Yes, it will teach… No, not teach, REMIND him that blanket sexism isn’t okay, and that he has awesome employees who are willing to work towards a better work environment rather than rush to legal means. Hats off to all involved.

This also teaches us that Internet commentators still persist in being self-involved lunkheads who don’t understand civility.

That’s pretty cool of him. I’m all for more sexy guy pics in comics and stuff . . . :D

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:15 pm

That “logic” only works if she is absolutely right and he is absolutely wrong. That pic being sexist is her opinion. You know how many women enjoy cheesecake art? So instead of bringing her problems to him like an adult, she puts him in the hot seat in a passive-aggressive style.

‘I would have fired her on the spot.’

Of course, that sounds like the thought of a level-headed, reasoned, unprejudiced individual.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:20 pm

Why would I keep an employee who uses passive-aggressive tactics against her own boss and then brags about it on the internet?

@Richard um… the poster was on the outside wall of his office, facing the rest of his employees (half of whom are women) and any clients/customers/visitors to the office as a whole. Now both images are up for equal enjoyment by all.

Why are you so intimidated by Brosie? Is it the size of his wrench? Or just that he’s not flashing enough under-scrot for you?

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:28 pm

Hmm, that’s weird that you have to go to homophobic comments. Seems like you might have some issues you need to work out.

So a guy who has 50% female employees (which is way above average) and has a “top notch” rating for gender issues gets singled out for embarrassment in passive-aggressive way because of something he paid for and owns in his own place?

The guy put that up not because of his politics, but because he liked it. The woman brought her politics to work and subjected him and everyone else to it. The workplace is to work, not to work out your body dismorphia issues in public.

Why didn’t she just speak to him privately if he was so cool and it bothered him so much,

So according to Richard “passive aggressive” = fireable offense, but blatant public sexism = no problem bro.

I’d prefer working in an organization where this kind of “passive aggressive” behavior is treated in the clever humorous manner it was intended, rather than Richardson empire of thoughtless sef-involvement.

I see than most people commenting here have never been a leader or manager of an organization. Or maybe they took organization building from the Moral Majority, Jim Crow, Segregation Counsel.

Yep. And as usual, the woman moaning about sexism has to turn to a male colleague to actually, ya know, do something. Because lord knows she wasn’t gonna be able to draw that picture and hang it all by herself.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Sexism cannot be defined as ‘anything.’ An established really cool guy gets embarrassed by his employee who was a coward.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:52 pm

She was obviously using “humor” as a weapon in a passive-aggressive manner toward her boss.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 12:54 pm

I worked at a video game company with a lot of women who had practically naked pics of professional wrestlers. It didn’t bother me and I didn’t harass them for it.

Not Richard But Dick

May 15, 2013 at 12:57 pm

You bros seem really terrified at the concept of sexy men. Think about why that is quietly for a moment. When you’re done there, think quietly about why you’re so worried about a woman feeling safe enough to prank her boss. Quietly.

Nobody has bothered actually explain how this is sexist. “I said so”, dear JRC, isn’t enough.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:16 pm

It’s funny that one side is explaining things and the other side is using homophobic comments, name-calling and allusions to “Jim Crow” laws.

The work place is not a gender politics workshop. It’s a place where people go to produce things to make money.

And no one has been able to explain why she couldn’t just talk to this “really cool guy” instead of being passive-aggressive toward him.

@Richard My boyfriend’s wrench size is just fine and I have no problem with him showing off some under-scrot so I’m all cool on the implied issues, thanks. I also regularly work with topless women and enjoy the occasional underboob motorboat in case you felt like travelling down that path as well. And, to remind you of the actual details of this story, this was an April Fools prank the result of which is that BOTH POSTERS are now hung in the office. This isn’t that ball-busting harpy ruining everyone’s fun that you seem to be painting. This is a woman who felt that this single sexualized image of the game they all developed (and that has absolutely nothing to do with the game) was a sexually lop-sided representation. Now there are two stupidly sexualized images hanging in the office that everyone, not just the top-of-the-pyramid CEO, can equally like.

@Cae She turned to an artist to render an artistic vision. She is a data scientist. So, no, one wouldn’t expect her to draw that picture all by herself without resorting to suggestions of sexism. And, contrary to your insinuation… she did manage to hang it on his wall. Even with her delicate lady-hands.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Your issues come from making insinuations about sexuality instead of arguing the issues. And no one cares about “wrench size” of anyone you know.

Humor is fun. She talked about “grinding her teeth in anger” because of a single poster the boss put up because he liked it. So her feelings trump his because…uh, science? This was not a “haha, I’m silly” good natured joke, it was done out of anger and done passive-aggressively.

And for the 4th time: why couldn’t she simply go to him and speak to him privately about this matter like an adult?

“The work place is not a gender politics workshop. It’s a place where people go to produce things to make money. “

It’s a place where people go to produce things to make money … preferably without having to cringe all day at images that are probably better off left in the bedroom of a teenage boy, or in the office of the local garage (at least as depicted on TV).

It’s bizarre that this woman’s good-humored, and creative, approach to an apparently uncomfortable workplace issue is being viewed as some kind of declaration of (culture) war, particularly when you consider that, with different players under similar circumstances, this might’ve resulted in arbitration over complaints of a hostile work environment.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:38 pm

Why is the woman so weak that a picture makes her cringe “all day”? Maybe she should pay attention to her work and act like an adult.

Her actions are the epitome of humorlessness. She took something someone liked and ruined it. I guess that made her feel better.

I love the fact that someone disagrees with you and so he’s obviously gay. Don’t respond to his comments, just blast him with a gay bomb and hope he shuts up. This is why our country is screwed beyond repair. Now please say I’m gay and uncomfortable with the guy’s wrench. Its funny that the worst thing you can call someone who disagrees with you is Gay. Need to work on that open-mindedness.
Onto the poster, if I was the boss, I would keep my pic in my office and remove everything not 100% work related from the rest of the office.
By the way, the pic is promoting the thing that makes them money. The reason they used a girl and not a half naked dude to try to promote sales is because the MAJORITY of people playing the game are straight men. Now, I know gay men and women play games too, but not enough to market to. Sorry, its basic business.

She didn’t “ruin” anything. According to her telling of events, the two images now hang “side by side.”

I’m also not sure why weakness is being attributed to her …

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:43 pm

The boss used to look at it and like it. Now he looks at it and remembers when his employee tried to embarrass him and he was forced to hang something he didn’t like next to it.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Ray Gunn has it right. Humor her and take that pic down as well as every other pic in the place so as to not “offend” anyone.

“The boss used to look at it and like it. Now he looks at it and remembers when his employee tried to embarrass him and he was forced to hang something he didn’t like next to it.”

No one forced him to do anything, and who says he didn’t like the other poster?

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:45 pm

Weakness is attributed since she didn’t have the guts to bring the issue up to her boss, who is very cool and they could have had a private conversation about this and resolved it.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm

I’m making the assumption that he is straight, since most men are. I am also making the assumption that is he was bi, he would have already put up pics like the one he was forced to put up to appease this humorless woman.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:48 pm

And from now on, he has to worry if anything else he hangs up will “offend” some other miserable person.

Poor guy. He talked to his lawyer and didn’t want to be sued. He didn’t have a choice.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 1:52 pm

lol exactly. It also looks like her friends sold her out pretty quickly since she did not have the guts to come forward. Can we safely assume she is Little Miss Drama around the office.

@Ray I in no way used a “gay bomb” in order to try to shut Richard up. He said:

“And how the hell does underboob of a woman in shorts and small shirt compare with a guy solely wearing underwear?”

Which, on the surface, seems to be a ridiculous comment unless one truly believes that Richard sees a man in underwear as a level of sexualization above and beyond gratuitous under-boob. So I decided to question him on it. Does he truly not see that under-boob is no less of a sexually overt illustration than under-scrot? That firmly holding an exploding welding torch carries the same double-entendres as a sizable wrench? That, as far as societal norms of sexualized representation, these two images are on equal footing?

The responses, both from him and yourself, make it clear that… no, in fact, you still see some exception for over-sexualized representations of women in a workplace environment that should not exist for over-sexualized representations of men. The sexism inherent in that view seems to be pretty well grasped by most of the other commenters on this site, by the woman in question, her cohort, the other co-workers described in the article and its source, and, once it was pointed out to him, by the CEO.

It only seems to be you and Richard “Little Miss Drama” that can’t see it through your assumptions that he was legally forced to follow this course of events, that he wasn’t sincere in his response, and that he doesn’t like the new image as well. No, he probably won’t be jerking off to it in the office, but most evolved people are able to enjoy things that don’t necessarily get them hard.

I like that someone pulling a prank is somehow humorless, that an image of a semi-nude male is somehow passive-aggressive, but an image of a semi-nude female is not and she’s being told she’s the one who needs to “act like an adult” in this office.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 2:55 pm

Not one person has been able to explain why an employee could not bring up this issue to a “cool boss” in private and in a non-manipulative manner.

and no, a man in his underwear is not the equivalent of a woman in shorts and a small shirt that she could wear in public.

And what’s with this Taliban-like shock/disgust/offense at underboob?

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 2:56 pm

Which person owns the place and can do what they want?

Wow. I’m impressed by the employee and the ingenuous way she dealt with the situation. I’m impressed by the CEO who saw the truth of the situation, owned up to it and rewarded an employee for a good idea (those who doubt his sincerity are informed only by their own insecurity and issues as there’s nothing to suggest his response wasn’t thoughtful). I’m incredibly non-plussed by the neanderthal response and hijacking of this thread by one Richard C. Meyer whose entire argument is based on assumptions that aren’t based in fact and an ugliness towards gender relations. Richard, this is the 21st century. Middle-aged white guys don’t control the world like they did in the 50s. Time to come in to the modern era.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 2:58 pm

Shorts and a small short is not nearly naked unless this is the 1950s and moder-era Kabul.

Hey Richard, the tower of ill thought out defense your building here isn’t going anywhere, in fact it looks remarkably like a hole getting deeper and deeper.

Seems like everyone involved in the prank wound up happy and rewarded–including the boss. Through his participation in the gag, he helped create a better situation.
Since you’re so concerned with his side of things, that should end your concern and salve your wound in total. But it doesn’t, you’re not happy unless the prior status quo is maintained and the employee is shown to be in the wrong.
Why is that?

Why not stop posting your thin/ pedantic arguments, get a shovel and start the real thing, you’ll get someplace farther, faster.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm

lol and we all know that people never pretend to be happy because they are in a no-win scenario. If the boss really liked it he would have gotten pissed and then took 20 minutes to find her with a totally different tune. Call to lawyer, call to buddy and probably a call to an outsourcing firm to figure how he could farm the data jobs out of his office.

And I still challenge ONE of you to answer why she couldn’t bring this up privately to her “cool” boss.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:10 pm

By the way, the entire story is coming solely from the POV of the woman. Not exactly impartial.

The artwork on the left is just a more aesthetically pleasing piece of art, regardless of what your gender may be.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Exactly. Pretty much every sexuality likes and appreciates cheesecake art. It isn’t about something to “jack off to” as decker so reductively put it. Beefcake art does not have the same appeal. It appeals mainly to gay men. In my experience, women think it is silly at best.

for further reference, click the link via my name Richard.

The guy’s look isn’t acceptable in public? Marvel Comcs have a world leader who wears less.

Richard, you’re speculating a lot about the cool boss’s actions. I’ll speculate that he told all his employee he would be cool with something like this. Problem solved!

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm

Flash-forward a year from now and this “cool boss” will have outsourced half the jobs in the office since he can’t risk his livelihood on random lawsuits from over-sensitive and disloyal employees with self-esteem issues.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:29 pm

He got forced into a corner by a manipulative, cowardly and disloyal employee.

And not a single person has been able to explain why she didn’t discuss this privately with him

“And not a single person has been able to explain why she didn’t discuss this privately with him.”

Yes, Richard, you’ve repeated this question only slightly less than you’ve used the “coward” label. For an answer, you’d likely have to ask the employee, as I doubt anyone here is a mind-reader.

Why is this privacy thing so important to you Richard?
If the boss decided to take down the poster after a private conversation, would you be any happier, or would you just dig a different shaped hole?
Are you somehow worried about his dignity?

The offense happened in a communal space, why shouldn’t the solution come in a communal space?

*fresh link attached to my name to help your ongoing campaign*

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Please, you can assume a million things about this situation but you won’t hazard a guess on why she wouldn’t talk to a cool boss?

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Because that’s how adults act in the workplace. It doesn’t have to be private but it should be face-to-face. She couldn’t have brought it up in a meeting?

I don’t believe he chose to put the picture up. I believe he was forced into it by a manipulative coward in his employ.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:42 pm

BTW, the games, effects, and animation industry are being devastated by outsourcing. Things like this make outsourcing the best option. You get product and don’t have to deal with people like her.

“Please, you can assume a million things about this situation but you won’t hazard a guess on why she wouldn’t talk to a cool boss?”

OK, then, I’ll play: How about she thought an April Fool’s prank might be a good to inject levity into an exchange that could be uncomfortable?

Please Richard, lead the way?
Give us your learned psychological analysis of the situation?
It seems you have some trenchant insight that will just FLATTEN us and invalidate the interpretation we’ve been provided by an actual participant in the situation.

*fresh link*

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Why would the exchange be uncomfortable if he was a cool boss with a great track record on gender issues?

*dig deeper*

Talking about such things can always be uncomfortable for some people.
The shocking truth has been revealed!

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:54 pm

So the best way to broach the subject is by pissing off your boss in public? That doesn’t pass the giggle test. Or do you think she is “less able” to be professional because she is a woman?

The fact of the matter is, this female employee could have had a case for suing the boss for creating a hostile working environment by having pictures of half naked women up (drawn or otherwise). Maybe that wouldn’t have much leg in on it’s own, but if one man or woman in the office sexually harassed her and she took him and the company to court that picture would’ve been huge ammunition in her claim that it created an environment where women/people could be objectified. Now in most larger, publicly owned/traded corporations neither picture would be appropriate or allowed by HR. In a smaller private company (particularly in an industry like comics and gaming… entertainment in general) I’m sure there’s a little more tolerance. For example, her decision to make a point by hanging up the cheesecake picture of the guy next to the girl was met with a discussion about gender and not an immediate firing. Neither of these people are really in the right… him for having the picture up in the first place or her for the way she approached it… but in their work environment it obviously worked. Bottom line is work isn’t the place for cheesecake art in my opinion because of the potential problems, but that’s for this company to worry about.

*you need more scientific digging tools*

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 3:59 pm

I’m seeing a neurotic woman with body issues projecting her neurosis out into the world. I’m seeing a woman bring politics to work. I’m seeing a manipulative woman doing things behind her boss’ back and manipulating him. I then see her congratulating herself in public while also being too cowardly to use her own name, even though she has no problem naming the company and her boss.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:00 pm

This is the woman’s reaction to the pic:

“Why do I loathe it? How, you ask, can I stay mad at a sweet young belle who has so obviously taken a break from her important welding to offer me a piping hot cup of coffee and/or a vigorous hand job?”

Not only smutty and dumb but totally condescending. The woman is obviously a mechanic of some kind but she wants to imply she is some dumb slut or secretary. Basically, it’s Slut-Shaming 2.0.

“Basically, it’s Slut-Shaming 2.0.”
*lol*

http://kotaku.com/5868595/nerds-and-male-privilege
http://kotaku.com/5873885/nerds-and-male-privilege-part-2-deconstructing-the-arguments

Oh man, the fun we have here….
Kotaku has this one for us gang, lets just let Richard argue himself to the Earth’s core.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Sarcasm and eye-rolling might get you a job on The Daily Show but it doesn’t give you any advantage in an actual debate.

And Richard, that post right there would be the 21st century dictionary definition of sexism.

Add to that your previous: “Pretty much every sexuality likes and appreciates cheesecake art. It isn’t about something to “jack off to” as decker so reductively put it. Beefcake art does not have the same appeal.”

And: “I am… making the assumption that is he was bi, he would have already put up pics like the one he was forced to put up.”

And, just in case something from a man’s perspective will get through your skull, Her’es what Sam Kirk has to say: “To support the release of it’s video game HAWKEN, Meteor Entertainment commissioned Justin Hampton to create some classic pin-up style chick art. To skewer the absurdity of the original task and support the rising tide of women in the video game business, a particularly plucky lady co-worker and I hatched a counter-concept that has just as little to do with the game as the original.”

You are clearly out of touch with consensus reality.

Thanks for playing.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:15 pm

Yes, because men and women are exactly the same and cheesecake art has the same appeal as beefcake art.

Meanwhile, in the real world.

Newsflash, ace: men and women are different. Different does not mean inequal, it means “not the same.”

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:16 pm

lol I love how you called me on assuming a random guy is straight. I mean the odds were only 80% in my favor but oh well.

“Not only smutty and dumb but totally condescending. The woman is obviously a mechanic of some kind but she wants to imply she is some dumb slut or secretary. Basically, it’s Slut-Shaming 2.0.”

Yes, she “slut-shamed” a drawing of a fictional character, yet you’ve spent the entirety of this thread demeaning an actual woman (whom you’ve never met) by calling her “dumb,” “smutty,” “cowardly” (ad nauseum), “neurotic,” “manipulative,” “Little Miss Drama,” “humorless,” “miserable,” “weak” and “passive-aggressive.”

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:19 pm

““To support the release of it’s video game HAWKEN, Meteor Entertainment commissioned Justin Hampton to create some classic pin-up style chick art. To skewer the absurdity of the original task ”

Pin-up art for a war game is absurd?!?!? Ever heard of stuff like this. It’s kind of famous:

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/08.jpg

And we all know about military men’s famous revulsion to scantil-clad women.

lol, maybe the USO should cancel those cheerleaders they send out to entertain the troops and instead send some feminists in pant-suits doing spoken word poetry.

Richard C. Meyer

May 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Are you on a cartoon website mocking the idea that cartoon characters are serious business. Notice the hoopla over Merida’s “re-design.”

Get me binoculars, Richard’s down so deep I can’t see him anymore!
*passes the chips*

No, I’m calling you on the assumption that a bi guy would, just naturally, have already put up sexualized male pinup art. ‘Cause guys putting up pinups of guys is just so accepted in the modern workplace. It’s almost as much a non-issue as would be a woman putting up some hot-dude pinup.

And pretty much every woman I know, most men I know, the woman in this piece, several of the men at her office, most of the commenters here, and anyone on The Hawkeye initiative site would have a bone to pick with your 1950s assumption that pretty much every sexuality likes and appreciates chick pinups. Throw a shirtless pic of Ryan Gosling up in the place of Brosie and see how many women you can get on your side.

“lol, maybe the USO should cancel those cheerleaders they send out to entertain the troops and instead send some feminists in pant-suits doing spoken word poetry.”

Oh My! Richard was right…Its already happening!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zy1uSfjTvQ

no, sorry, it’s a cool prank, and right on as far as not being a dick all the time. My only comment, the fellow really needs to be hotter. The girl is just perfection, but the guy, well, let’s be honest he’s kind of schluby. But overall, a great gag, and incidently great PR for this Haweken thing the kids are all talking about. Win win all around. had the boss been a dick like the trolls advocate, well, then that’s the image of Hawken. That he owns up to his own double standard, and makes good, tells the story Hawken likely wants.

All good.

haha, some people in these comments are typical dudebros trying to “stick it” to the feminazis. I personally think this is some funny ass stuff here. Genius April Fools Day prank.

Pranks are fun. If we’re going to sexualize one gender why not the other?

Near as I can tell, Mr Meyer, you spent an entire day berating and belittling anyone who had a viewpoint that was contrary to your own, in an attempt to win an argument where you claim to be on the fair and unbiased side.

Which leads me to wonder… what kind of work do you do where you can spend the entire day hanging around making comments on a website? And what kind of job would hire such a lazy, opinionated person such as you?

I think blah blah blah anger rage rage blah internet commenting!

I love that Richard seems to have the ability to know what everyone was thinking and feeling even though he wasn’t actually there. Wish I was omnipotent.

If I had to guess, I’d bet Richard has a history of women complaining to HR about him, hence why he’s so angry about a woman not confronting her male co-worker directly about a potentially awkward, sexual-related matter.

Richard’s inability to see from the woman’s perspective is astounding. Have you never had to sit through any sexual harassment videos? You’re the guy in the video who blames a woman for being too sensitive when she obviously has a case for harassment. You are the reason we have to all watch those videos, sir.

That underboob picture was hanging on the wall of a business where every employee and customer saw it every day? REALLY?
I’m a 50 year old straight male and I would have bitched about it the day it went up! What place does that picture have in a professional workplace? NO ONE complained about it for MONTHS? (One more time…) REALLY?!
And the guy whut hung it there is even older than my old ass? WTF…!? And no one complained?
What, everyone was afraid of getting fired? Insecure of your abilities or the legal system or…?
And I think he pretty much said “Fuck You” when he put up BOTH after. “Now you can look at the banana hammock AND the underboob, guys and girls! It’s good to be KING!”
Fucking unbelievable.

Just in case anyone missed this:
http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/post/50432219744/special-guest-edition-the-hawkeye-initiative-irl
Specifically this part:
“It is the first thing workers and visitors see when they enter the building and the last thing they see when they leave. This little lady’s undermeats have been the open- and close- parens to my work world for the last six months.”
(One more time, again…) REALLY?!

Geezer, it’s an artistic industry, not an accounting firm.

Why didn’t she go have a talk with her cool boss?

Because ‘Show’ works better than ‘Tell’ 9 times out of 10….

Clearly, this woman was far braver than some people are giving her credit for being. To do that to a CEO, to call him on his BS (his words), takes a tremendous amount of courage. If your interpretation is “passive-aggressive”, then so be it.

Regardless, the desired result was obtained.

And, she kept her job…and got a free lunch out of the deal…

Thank goodness that Mark Long isn’t a closed-minded jagoff…and is, in fact, a true leader…

It takes guts to be gentle and kind…and open-minded as well…

Kevin, thank you for posting this. It’s refreshing to see that comics and gaming sites continue to report on these issues while much of the commentariat doesn’t get it yet.

Richard@ You keep asking why she couldn’t have possibly talked to the cool boss in private right? Well, it’s true, and a very good point that sure, she could of talked to the boss privately instead of swapping out the pictures. However, look at a big portion of the gamer community. You know what a lot of us have? An amazing and understanding sense of humor. My belief is that this woman wanted to be a little more witty and creative. Just because something makes you grind your teeth doesn’t mean every action you make against it is passive aggressive. No one was forced to do anything. The woman ASKED the artist to do the male rendition of the image, she didn’t force them, they were asked and agreed. Together they saw it hung up in place of the female image. There’s no way to tell for sure if the boss had called his lawyer, it doesn’t even designate that he took a long time to turn around with the second response after the initial. Besides, have you ever had something suddenly switched on you before? I’m a big pink floyd fan, my parents had an awesome, gigantic pink floyd poster. I’m also a fan of The Cure. I had a poster of Robert Smith hung up in my room above my bed. Well, I went on a little vacation to Seattle one weekend, and when I came back to drop my stuff in my room and fall face first into my bed, I noticed that the gigantic Pink Floyd poster was hung up above my bed where I expected good ol’ Robert. My first reaction? “What the hell is this doing here?!” My next reaction? Run upstairs and hug my parents and thank them over and over. People respond to change, especially when they aren’t expecting it. Just because someone starts things with a “What the hell?!” Doesn’t mean they’re angry or dislike it necessarily.

The boss also could have taken down both images, hung it more privately in his office, sure. But… that’s exactly it! He could have just taken them both down, but he decided to leave them both up! What I’m used to seeing when someone doesn’t want conflict, but really doesn’t like the counter side of a problem brought up, is they totally remove it. “If I can’t have it my way, everyone looses the privalege.” It’s easy, and really, when that action is taken, you can’t really say anything about it. The fact that he decided to keep both up implies that he probably really did enjoy the prank, and maybe even admires the second art piece in a way because, well, it’s something drawn by a talented artist and I enjoy the genuine cheesiness of both XD Why couldn’t other people possibly enjoy both images.

Now, say this was someone being passive agressive and tramping all over someone else’s right to buy and hang whatever the hell they want up. You’re going to offend a portion of gamers. I’ve done the research, the truth of the matter is women make up almost half the gaming populous now. I read an article on gamercrave, and according to it, women account for 48% of the gamer community. I think it is entirely fair, with that in mind, to have a sexualized male image as well as a sexualized female image. Sure, like another person stated up there, I find sexualized male images to be cheesy, but I find the female ones cheesy too. Over inflated peenor= over inflated breasts. Goofy facial expressions across the board. They’re both magnificently cheesy, and pleasing images. You can say “oh Marketing says this is what’s effective” and “it’s a male based audience” but again, those statistics say otherwise, and I’ve personally witnessed many a times where people are really turned off by this type of blatant sexualization. Sometimes it’s because people find it offensive, sometimes it’s because people go “Oh, well if this is all they’re going to be bragging about, I’ll pass on this one…” seeing the things displayed on the front cover as the game advertising itself to you, and advertisement is all about trying to present and embellish your best qualities.

Well, this is turning into quite a wall of text, so I will quit here. Go ahead and rip it apart and say I’m not presenting any facts or hitting on many of the main issues, it’s a shallow excuse to try to shoot down the arguments of others and of course, there’s no changing your mind when it’s already made up and you feel that your view of the situation is absolute. No one knows the truth aside from those people, I could be just as wrong about it as I think you are, it’s a simple fact.

People still put up cheesecake shots at work? Why? Not enough porn in the world already?

And this is exactly how I wish more people would handle their issues. She could have pulled an SJ warrior trip and have done the usual rant and rave but, instead, she fought fire with fire and possibly made some change in her office. I seriously hope they go on to use both poster, although I hope the dude gets some pants… just because.

Also, as someone who appreciates the bodies of both sexes, both images are HOT.

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The Drunkard Kid

May 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Alright, now someone slip Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball – Bananahammock Edition to Team Ninja’s publishing team. And then make a commercial talking about Hayate’s ass. Cause even this straight male feels that they’ve kinda gone off the deep end when it comes to cheesecake.

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