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Alan Moore on the ‘League of Extraordinary Gentlemen’ TV pilot

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“When [DC Comics] did the recent Watchmen prequel comics I said all of sorts of deeply offensive things about the modern entertainment industry clearly having no ideas of its own and having to go through dust bins and spittoons in the dead of night to recycle things. … The announcement that there is a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen television series hasn’t caused me to drastically alter my opinions. Now it seems they are recycling things that have already proven not to work.”

Alan Moore, talking with Entertainment Weekly about last week’s announced that Fox has ordered a television pilot based on The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

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And absolutely nobody was surprised.

The only surprising element is that people will actually agree with Moore on this one, this show looks to be a piece of turd.

I enjoy much of Alan Moore’s work, quite a bit of which is based off of ‘recycled things’.

How exactly is League of Extraordinary Gentlemen not already going “through dust bins and spittoons in the dead of night to recycle things?”

Sweet does that mean that there will be no more League stuff coming from Alan Moore. The series has been providing rapidly diminishing returns.

“This show looks to be a piece of turd.” Really? You’ve already seen the commercials for it? You’ve already seen the pilot? They haven’t even cast the thing (and who knows where they are with the script, much less production design), but you already know exactly what it’s going to be like? At this point, we don’t know what they’re going to do with it. We don’t know if it’s going to follow on from the movie. We don’t know if it’s going to be more like the comics. Besides which, it’s not the same people involved. Did you have this attitude when they announced a show based on BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, a movie that didn’t exactly wow everyone? But look what happened with that.

How dare they use the IP rights he sold them?

Seriously though, how can Moore not see the irony here? “Having to go through dust bins and spittoons in the dead of night to recycle things”?…like errr…Victorian literature?

I love some of his work (mostly his DC and ABC stuff) but he is really kind of ridiculous.

Theres nothing ridiculous about it. He’s had more publishing companies milking his creations for cash than any writer I an think of, all against his will, without him seeing a profit. Then when e got fed up and decided to not work for DC/timewarner anymore, dc buys wildstorm (and ABC) and gets their hads right back in his pocket. Pathetic. Fox is probly only releasing this so they dont have to give up the rights, so I guess it doesnt really matter how it does. I remember when this industry was frontlined with creative types and artists, not tv and movie moguls. Sigh…..

So when you write “aha, Moore recycles Victorian literature, both popular and arcane, how dare he make fun of an upcoming TV pilot based on his own pilfered work”, you really do think that the execs in charge of it are going “Victorian literature, both popular and arcane + TV = what a great fit”, or are they thinking “well it had Connery and the director of Blade, we could repurpose that movie”.

Maybe he’s right to be wary of more producers trying to re-use that Don Murphy atrocity?

@ fruitwobbler

Exactly. Alan Moore’s work was inspired by Victorian literature. But he did not merely copy it to try and make some profit off of it. He used it to create his works. He created his own take on it. His work is a labour of love for Victorian literature. And it was done with an artistic intent. And honestly, if someone can’t differentiate between how Moore was inspired by Victorian literature to create his own stories, not copied it; and how Hollywood in most cases just rips things off or recycles them; then said person should really learn how to properly read and think.

Hollywood executives and studios in general couldn’t care less about Victorian literature. They are just trying to milk intellectual properties for all their worth. And like famished beggars, they do go through dust bins and spittoons in the dead of night to recycle things. In this case, through ideas that even remotely seemed to work in the past.

Maybe Moore should just stop writing. Then people will stop enjoying his work the wrong way and not want to see it adapted to other media.
Does this guy ever say anything positive? Because he always comes across as nothing moore than a bitter, miserable dick.
You write comics dude, you’re not Shakespeare. Get over yourself.

Just because the process of putting a finished film out to the masses is such a group effort that usually tames the concepts down to easily digested treats, doesn’t mean the people individually involved aren’t doing their work with the same care and love that you psychically attribute to Moore.

I think the more proper attribute of who cares about Victorian Literature would be on the majority of moviegoers, as the studios will chase any concept if it’s guaranteed to make them lots of money. And even then, that’s not always true, because nobody knows how the final product will turn out, despite the best intentions and care by all involved.

Further, judging from your condemnation of Hollywood enjoying Victorian era tales, clearly you haven’t watched the Academy Awards in the last (some long period of time), yeah?

Also, I tend to agree with Moore on this, having not agreed so much with some of his other stance in the past. This idea is horribly unadaptable to a tv show, just as it was clearly an impossible thing to turn into a flick. It’s so fundamentally a comic, and the things it calls upon and the visual styling and the pacing, all of it would be damn near impossible to turn into a recurring tv show. I suppose I can always be surprised, but the budget needed alone for some of the vehicles and settings, let alone costumes and make-up cgi etc, seems more than a show based on a failed movie based on a comic most people have never heard of, seems unlikely to procure.

Here is my opinion on Moore. I think he is a great creator and author. However, I fail to understand how he can keep signing on to be stabbed in the back by companies and then bitch and complain about being stabbed in the back by companies. He signed the agreements to create the works he did for all of these companies, he knew the terms of the agreements, the fact that maybe, at that time, nobody ever considered that there was a market for the properties outside the comic arena is shortsightedness on his or his legal representation’s part, not some vast conspiracy of the part of the companies. He could have easily demanded a derivative clause that would have only allowed the publisher to have rights to the original work, any derivatives would have to be approved by him. But, either he did not ask for that, was not advised to ask for that, or asked and was refused, either way, it really comes down to he did not demand or fight for his rights, he signed them off and now has sour grapes, as any creator that sees his/her work bastardized by another party would.

Oh look. It’s this thread again.

It feels more like he’s just saying the show is gonna suck, than bitching about rights or anything else. You have to remember, I’d assume like 90% of questions he fields from the comic industry have to do with this same topic, because he’s always good for a quote to get 100 comments from people saying what a baby he is/how awful every corporation ever is etc.

Are you people insane? Done properly this could be fucking amazing! Think about it! A procedural steampunk sci-fi/fantasy series? Sure the film didn’t work, but that’s because they turned Tom Sawyer into a gun toting idiot and made Nina into little more than a villain. In the right hands this cou– wait… what? WHO’S making it? Oh…. ooooooh…. never mind….

Says the man whose entire story is made up of other writers’ characters.

Recycled like Alan did in the first place? Surely one has to actually watch something to judge it? I love you Alan but come on, give it a punt!!

@Meta4
“He’s had more publishing companies milking his creations for cash than any writer I an think of, all against his will, without him seeing a profit. Then when e got fed up and decided to not work for DC/timewarner anymore, dc buys wildstorm (and ABC) and gets their hads right back in his pocket. Pathetic. Fox is probly only releasing this so they dont have to give up the rights, so I guess it doesnt really matter how it does. I remember when this industry was frontlined with creative types and artists, not tv and movie moguls. Sigh…..”

Against his will and without seeing a profit? Err…no. You’re just completely wrong here.
The thing is when the LXG is concerned, the IP rights still belong to Moore, that is why he is still writing LXG comics through other publishers.
Moore is the one who sold a license to FOX (he also sold them a license to do the From Hell movie). Now he is just mad because they dare use the license he sold them. Again, ridiculous.

Bleh. Buffy was successful. A flop movie that turned itself around on TV, becoming an incredible cult favorite and launching highly successful careers. THAT’S what’s formulaic about this.

But there’s no room to criticize until something is actually MADE. If you don’t want to think optimistically simply don’t watch it. But spare us your negative yapping as it’s revealingly unfounded and therefore alarmist.

dude needs to take a chill pill.

league 1 and 2 was many things – but above all it was dull to read.

It’s not the recycling been Alan moore has a problem with it’s the media format , going from paper to film. it was never intended for film.

I love how people are so quick to assume that a TV show based on this property will also be as bad as that film. The show is intended to be based on the comic, the film was only based loosely on the premise of the comic.

Why do we have to assume everything will be garbage before its even made? It might turn out to be the best thing that ever happened on TV. They remade Battlestar Galactica and that turned out to be great (well mostly)

@Lando? How is it exactly that you can say ” this show looks to be a piece of turd.” when you have not seen ANYTHING at all to do with the show other than it is being planned. You don’t know anything about it other than its coming.

It was a brilliant comic. If the show is half as good we will be fine.

Until leadership of DC changes, Moore’s still going to have a bone to pick with the company. Anyone else up for a coup d’tat?

@Acer
Moore has a problem with pretty much everyone. He’s pretty much anti-corporate.

DC’s management has changed since Watchmen came out. He still has problems with them.

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