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Silent on ‘Superman,’ Card responds to ‘Ender’s Game’ protest

Orson Scott CardAlthough Orson Scott Card was silent amid the backlash that followed the announcement he would write a Superman story for DC Comics, the celebrated author has responded to a planned boycott of the film adaptation of Ender’s Game over his statements about homosexuality and his opposition to same-sex marriage.

Ender’s Game is set more than a century in the future and has nothing to do with political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984,” Card wrote in a statement to EW.com. “With the recent Supreme Court ruling, the gay marriage issue becomes moot. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution will, sooner or later, give legal force in every state to any marriage contract recognized by any other state. Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”

A board member of the National Organization for Marriage, a group dedicated to the opposition of same-sex marriage, the author has tried to link homosexuality to childhood molestation, and advocated home-schooling to ensure children “are not propagandized with the ‘normality’ of ‘gay marriage.’” Following rulings by “dictator-judges” in 2008 that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, Card infamously endorsed a government overthrow.

DC’s announcement in February that Card would contribute to its new digital-first anthology Adventures of Superman sparked almost immediate outcry, leading the gay-rights advocacy initiative All Out to spearhead a petition demanding the publisher drop the author. Even as the first of several retailers pledged not to carry the print edition of Card’s Superman comic, DC issued a statement that read, “As content creators we steadfastly support freedom of expression, however the personal views of individuals associated with DC Comics are just that — personal views — and not those of the company itself.”

Less than a month later, the publisher was provided with an out when artist Chris Sprouse, who was hired to illustrate Card’s story, announced he was leaving the project because of the media attention. DC said it would “re-solicit the story at a later date when a new artist is hired,” but to date there has been no word on that front.

Concerns about a Card backlash reached beyond the comics industry, however. In February, The Hollywood Reporter wrote about the possibility of a ripple effect that could engulf Summit Entertainment’s $110 million adaptation of Ender’s Game, leading an unnamed studio executive to scoff at the idea of the author appearing alongside the movie’s stars at Comic-Con International. As it turned out, Card won’t be in San Diego next week.

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“…Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward tho”

Outside your crazy liberals (lets face it, every political group has crazies) there has been plenty of tolerance from proponents, that was kind of the idea the whole time.

“Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”

This quote is so ironic, its amazing the Onion didn’t come up with it. Bigots asking for tolerance.

Simon DelMonte

July 9, 2013 at 8:34 am

The people who planned to protest will protest. But I don’t think it will affect much. He’s not famous enough in wider circles, and I don’t expect the film to do that well in any case.

I will continue to show tolerance of Card and his right to say very hateful things or even pretend that since he lost his bile should be forgotten. I however will retain my right to govern my own spending so that people who I’ve tolerated saying hurtful, disgusting things don’t get a dime of my hard earned money…

Tolerance tends to stop at tolerating intolerance. Not sure why bigots don’t seem to get that.

Ultra-Humanite

July 9, 2013 at 8:55 am

Intolerant jerkwads don’t get to play the tolerance card.

This poor bastard. You know what? I’ll still boycott everything this guy does. Maybe he sees the hit to the wallet he’s taking and now wants to kiss and make up. He can kiss my ass and make up with that. This guy would rather see me in a cage than enjoying my life the way I am. I won’t line his pockets.

“political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984″
The arrogance and ignorance of this man is astonishing.

Like everyone else on the comment thread here, I hate it when a bigoted (and self-proclaimed, and rather proud bigot) throws the word ‘tolerance’ around. Gay people didn’t CHOOSE to be Gay, but you, Mr. Card, chose to be a narrow-minded bigot, and continue to choose thinking the way you do. You are not owed any tolerance, acceptance, or acquiescence. And being eloquent doesn’t lend your statements any credibility.

Mike D. Scott

July 9, 2013 at 9:24 am

Any boycott of Card’s works has nothing to do with the Supreme Court ruling. He has never apologized for either his words or his actions. There was never tolerance shown from his side, they just lost…that’s not the same thing. A boycott of his work is a statement against him, it says, “We won’t give our money to unrepentant hate mongers.”

Famous? Yes. “Celebrated”? Not exactly.

…and this is related to ‘Ender’s Game’ how???

-sigh- I dont condone anything he said or stands for, but Enders Game is an important and well written book that doesn’t contain any of his own ridiculous beliefs. I read it before I knew what a idiot he was and I got a strong pro homosexuality vibe from it (there’s a lot of naked dudes just hanging out together). If we have to do a background check on every writer/artist/actor in the world we’ll miss out on some important works. Roald Dahl was anti-semitic, Lovecraft was super racist. where do we draw the line? do we take all the Roald Dahl books out of schools? Do we not watch a movie that is close to doing something diffrent than every other big studio production?

So well put Lim…

” If we have to do a background check on every writer/artist/actor in the world we’ll miss out on some important works. Roald Dahl was anti-semitic, Lovecraft was super racist. where do we draw the line? do we take all the Roald Dahl books out of schools? Do we not watch a movie that is close to doing something diffrent than every other big studio production?”

If I had to agree with every political view of every author/actor/director/artist etc. I’d probably be left with very little to do.

So Lim, you are saying it’s OK to give money to a guy who used his time and money as a board member of NOM to get Prop 8 and DOMA passed and even advocated overthrowing the US government to prevent gay people from getting any rights. NOM has also been involved in drafting the “Kill the gays” bill in Uganda. Does he suddenly get a free pass because Prop 8 and DOMA got thrown out? The situation in Uganda could still go horribly wrong. You want to give money to a guy who’s giving money so gay people can be legally murdered in Uganda? Look it up, it’s all just a Google click away.

And as for the “strong pro homosexuality vibe” in Enders Game, I’m sorry but those boys are children. That is creepy pedo territory and NOT “pro homosexuality”. And if you read it carefully, he specifically made a point of their “innocence” and lack of sexual feelings for each other. (A roommate lent me the book to read about 10 years ago and that stuck with me even before I knew about his anti-gay agenda.)

As for Roald Dahl and Lovecraft, they are dead and not contributing money to bigoted laws. Orson Scott Card IS. THAT is the difference.

“…and this is related to ‘Ender’s Game’ how???”

He wrote it. Did you not know that?

But there is a difference between someone who has views and someone who is an activist. By making this man wealthy, you enable him to campaign. By giving him fame, you give him political capital.

“Roald Dahl was anti-semitic, Lovecraft was super racist. where do we draw the line?”

Everyone gets to draw their own line. Surely you’d have one somewhere, right? Like if Marvel hired an Al Qaeda leader to write Captain America, and said terrorist/writer explicitly said he’d be spending the money Marvel paid him on explosives? Maybe you’d decide not to buy that book on general principle?

So take a few steps back from that, and imagine the latest Superman writer is not merely a racist, but an active member of the KKK. At best, he’s going to spend his DC paycheque supporting some unpleasant legislation, and at worst…. well, you just don’t know.

So now you have Orson Scott Card, who’s spent a lot of time talking how homosexuals are unnatural, how they should be prosecuted for sexual deviancy, and how they absolutely shouldn’t be allowed to marry. You don’t have to do a “background check” – he’s pretty open & public about it. He’s not just talk – he’s also been on the board of an organization explicitly devoted to preventing gay marriage. Every penny Card collects from Ender’s Game may end up funding hateful bigots and their efforts to legislate the US into some puritanical theocracy.

I’m not sure if I’d make the same choice to boycott the movie, but I certainly don’t blame anyone who would.

“Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.”

No. They won’t.

They don’t when someone is against abortion. They just say they hate women. So if history is any guide, the “liberals” (most inaccurate word in the English language these days) will condemn anyone who disagreed that gay marriage should be recognized. As far as they’re concerned, they’re just evil homophobes who must be punished.

Even tolerant comic/fantasy fans can be intolerant.
I’m disappointed with DC allowing public opinion to alienated their fans.

Who is Orson Scott Card?

” So if history is any guide, the “liberals” (most inaccurate word in the English language these days) will condemn anyone who disagreed that gay marriage should be recognized.”

Gosh, after being battered by assertions that same-sex marriage will bring about the destruction of “the institution,” our education system and the very country itself, that it’s immoral and will lead us down a slippery slope to legalized polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia, and — my goodness! — it’s just plain icky, how dare proponents of marriage equality not immediately embrace the opposition!?!

“NOM has also been involved in drafting the “Kill the gays” bill in Uganda. Does he suddenly get a free pass because Prop 8 and DOMA got thrown out? The situation in Uganda could still go horribly wrong. You want to give money to a guy who’s giving money so gay people can be legally murdered in Uganda? Look it up, it’s all just a Google click away.”

I did just google it, thanks. Turns out your post is just left wing hysteria-driven talking points with no factual basis. Good job.

They say the best revenge is to live well, but in this case I think perhaps it might be better to write “Ender’s Game” slash fiction.

you know when I was a kid, his books were borderline homo erotic…Songmaster has gay people in a positive light….I don’t feel he is the villain everyone says he is. I think his views are specific to gay marriage….

And then there’s Andrew Sullivan, one of the earliest vocal proponents of gay marriage, who’s calling for the gay community to not become intolerant themselves: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/30/andrew-sullivan-very-concerned-gays-may-become-intolerant-people-who

If you don’t know who Andrew Sullivan is in this debate, you should….

Ollie By Golly

July 9, 2013 at 7:44 pm

I’m wondering how many people planning to boycott Card will also boycott any project with homophobe hate-monger Alec Baldwin and every company he is a spokesman for.

Ollie By Golly

July 9, 2013 at 7:47 pm

Make that “violently homophobic” in regards to gay-basher Baldwin. I know I’ll never watch anything he’s in again.

Speech is either free or it isn’t. Not everyone has to agree with everything you do so long as they aren’t actively trying to prevent you from doing it.

Freedom of speech means you can say anything you want, except inciting violence or other crimes. It does not mean freedom from the consequences of what you say.

Exactly Steve. Most people who cite Freedom of Speech have no clue what that really means.

My response to Mr Card reads in part: “…So, you wrote Ender’s Game in 1984 and state it has nothing to do with political issues that didn’t exist back then and therefore the LGBT community shouldn’t have an issue. Is that about fucking right, Mr Card? You wrote that the gay marriage issue becomes moot as a result of SCOTUS’ rulings and the Constitution’s Full Faith and Credit Clause, and sooner or later every state will have to recognize SSM marriages from other states.

And in light of these we should show tolerance toward toward people who were anti-marriage equality. At the same time, you conveniently sidestep that you once called for the violent overthrow of the government as a reaction and recourse to marriage equality when it comes to our entire country.”
- See more at: http://www.gayleague.com/wordpress/an-open-letter-to-orson-scott-card-in-regards-to-your-recent-statement/#sthash.TJs5eAD2.dpuf

ranxerox has a pretty good point. It seems as if he’s just a nutty christian who believes that marriage is a religious thing, thats what NOM is mostly about. He has said some shit that is extreme, but in the end, I think this is a christian dude defending his christian beliefs. I think marriage for straight people is silly too. I’m not religious, to me marriage is more about the law, finances and such, I dont care about a “union before god” but Card does and thats his belief, we have to tolerate it because we live in a country where people have religious freedom. I don’t agree with how women are treated in islam, but I dont scoff at women in Burkas when I see them, that’s their belief and they are free to do as they wish. I will judge their art on its merits, not their religion.

“I think this is a christian dude defending his christian beliefs.”

No, he’s a christian dude who wants everyone else to live by his christian beliefs. He is free to belong to whatever church he wants, and attend whatever marriage ceremonies he thinks are appropriate. He doesn’t get to apply that belief to everyone else.

Been thinking about this all afternoon about how to word this. The topic came up a few months ago on an Email list I’m on and sparked one humdinger of a flame war.
I’ve seen and heard people who say it is right to make illegal copies of this film when it comes out because they disagree with OSC’s sociopolitical stances and frank honesty about himself.

Thing is theft is still theft and as the old saying goes two wrongs don’t make a right. Unlike three lefts if you are driving. ;P Object sure, and vote with your wallet absolutely, but stealing is still stealing. Picketing his even is more ethically correct than robbing the man, even if it does make you seem like the Westboro Baptists. Robbing him will only make him hate LGBT people MORE. If the goal of the protest campaign is to show that LGBT people and their supporters are NOT utter assholes dancing on the edges of cultural fascism with themselves in the driver seat THIS time, they should keep it legal and all above board. I understand the desire for vengeance and revenge and pillorying symbols in the social media version of the town square, absolutely I do. BUT no one is above the laws, declaration of rights, charter of rights and freedoms nor any other document we bring out to claim the rights and privileges denied any of us in the past. In closing, sure he’s an unapologetic homophobe, so what, would you prefer he were dishonest and hid it and kept buying his books unwittingly? This is like finding out that KFC is actually a front for the KKK and being upset that you found out because you really really like their chicken. And you are torn up about it not because you have to find a different chicken restaurant, but because now you actually KNOW. My suggestion: to use my metaphor, find a different chicken restaurant, the people that used to go to Chick Fil-A did, and so did the folks who used to go to Papa Johns Pizza. And that isn’t theft, or condoning it.

Hell as a life long Catholic, and given his generation, I’d expect that JRR Tolkein had similar ideas about Homosexuality. where are the pickets surrounding the lord of the rings movies? How many other Authors had similar views, by all accounts Hemmingway was also a dick. Come to that the US, EU, and eastern Canada buy Billions of dollars a year of oil from Islamist states such as Saudi Arabia, as well as several others that ACTUALLY EXECUTE HOMOSEXUALS. To say nothing at all about their other human rights violations. Something which I’m fairly positive OSC hasn’t done or even advocated. Where are the picket signs and boycotts of their commercial interests? Plain and simple this is a double standard applied to a convenient scape goat and low hanging fruit, so those who feel powerless can apply a balm to their offended ego’s. Cheap instant gratification revenge about as just, equitable, and honest as an old school witch burning in the village square.

Orson Scott Card probably IS gay, and can’t deal with it. Represses it, hates himself, and that is why he has all this vitriol against gay folks. It’s psychology 101. Sad really. That being said, I won’t see Ender’s Game, because I won’t fund his network of fearmongering. It’s a pity though, because I did like the book. But I can’t fund him or his nonsense. If it ever comes to cable, I’ll watch it for free.

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