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Marvel titles now include Jack Kirby creator credit

kirby-marvelEagle-eyed readers may have noticed a new entry to the credits pages of several Marvel comics released this week: a line acknowledging the contribution of Jack Kirby.

All-New X-Men #33, Fantastic Four #12, Inhuman #7 and Wolverine and the X-Men #11 include the phrase “Created By Stan Lee and Jack Kirby,” while Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America #1 states, “Captain America Created By Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.” The credits pages can be found below.

Added with no fanfare, the credits follow a settlement agreement announced last month, ending the five-year-old fight between Marvel and Kirby’s children over the copyrights to 45 characters created or co-created by their father — among them, the Avengers, the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.

Neither side has commented publicly on their agreement beyond the joint statement, issued even as the U.S. Supreme Court was expected to decide whether it would consider an appeal by the Kirby heirs: “Marvel and the family of Jack Kirby have amicably resolved their legal disputes, and are looking forward to advancing their shared goal of honoring Mr. Kirby’s significant role in Marvel’s history.”

A “created by” credit can certainly be viewed as a step toward “honoring Mr. Kirby’s significant role in Marvel’s history.” ROBOT 6 contacted Marvel to find out what other titles will include the acknowledgement; we’ll update when we receive a reply.

Last year, DC Comics similarly began including “By Special Arrangement With the Jerry Siegel Family” in the credits of any title featuring Superman, a stipulation of the long-disputed 2001 agreement between the publisher and the writer’s heirs (also, Superboy is now “Created By Jerry Siegel” while Supergirl is “Based on Characters Created By Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster”).

Fantastic Four #12

Fantastic Four #12

All-New X-Men #33

All-New X-Men #33

 Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America #1

Death of Wolverine: Deadpool & Captain America #1

Inhuman #7

Inhuman #7

Wolverine and the X-Men #11

Wolverine and the X-Men #11

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Let’s call this progress, but not be content. Now only if DC would formally acknowledge Bill Finger then we’d be onto something.

I’m with you on that Bill Finger thing.
It takes Marvel to get the “byline / created by” thing a long time ei… Weird…

Yay! I believe that Silver Surfer #7 will be out next week – I’m curious to see if Jack is credited solely or not. (Stan was always the first to say that the Surfer was totally Kirby’s idea – inserted after they came up with the Galactus story plot.)

Yay!!! This is long overdue, but much welcome, recognition by Marvel Comics.

As for Bill Finger formally being recognized as Batman co-creator, from what I have heard & read (and I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me) that is out of DC Comics’ hands. In order to have Finger credited as such, DC would need to re-negotiate their contract / agreement with Bob Kane’s Estate. And that is something that the Kane Family has apparently expressed zero interest in doing.

@ Ben Herman, you are right, the Bill Finger problem is that DC is contractually obligated to only resign credit to Bob Kane for Batman. Not that DC isn’t trying, this past year, they printed a special edition Detective Comics with Finger credited to the story.

About time too . . .

No co-creator credit for Joe Shuster for Superboy, as both Siegel and Shuster did the first Superboy story (In “More Fun Comics” #101)? Also, no credits for Otto Binder/Al Plastino for Supergirl?

Well, they do it on the movies, so it’s damn time they did it on the comics. Hell, I was always with Marvel that it was work for hire and they owned the stuff, but giving the guy credit is only right.

About time. Now pony up a mill or so a year for each of his kids.

Talmidge Mcgulliger

October 30, 2014 at 9:26 am

I’ve always wondered why Finger never gets credit for Green Lantern.

I agree with you guys. It’s about time Marvel gave credit where credit is due. Great news!

Since the original Kane contract was based on fraudulent claims that he created Batman all by himself, I feel DC and WBs battalion of lawyers could easily get it tossed/renegotiated. But then they’d have to negotiate a contract with Finger’s heirs. There’s no fiscal gain for WB to give Finger credit.
That’s why they toss out the ol “our hands are tied” chestnut when pressed by fans about the gross injustice.
Yes, it’s the right thing to do, but they don’t give a spit because it has no bearing on their Q Report to investors.

All this love for Kirby is long over due – although I agree Kirby’s creations were work for hire – & his kids should def benefit from their father’s creativity.
But in this founding father’s glorification why no mention of Steve Ditko; everyone agrees his work on Spider-man is immense. The costume, the styling, the villains & co-plotting as well – he built that character from the ground up & Marvel have been living off his work ever since.
He should be acknowledged as the co-creator & given a wheelbarrow of money; honour the man whilst he’s still alive!

While Jack came up with the idea of the Surfer without prompting and created his look, it was Stan who gave him his name, personality and voice. Credit where it’s due.

@ Asif, I don’t think that’s part of Steve Ditko’s believe system. IIRC, Ditko said he was already paid for his work, so he thinks he shouldn’t continue to get paid after the fact.

I may be wrong. Can anyone comfirm this?

@ Boabiemenzies, maybe the credits can be like this, “Silver Surfer created by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee”.

How about: Created by Jack ‘the King’ Kirby. That’s all the credit line should read. Lee didn’t create anything.

Emac1790, that seems very fair. Stan has acknowledged that Jack came up with the idea of a herald without any suggestion from him, so your suggestion makes complete sense.

Damn right. It’s about time.

Ya era hora. Felicitaciones. Jack Kirby el Rey.

About freaking time!

I’m 99.9% sure the “Captain America created by Joe Simon & Jack Kirby” credit has appeared before. Actually I’m 100% certain, since I’m looking at it right now in CAPTAIN AMERICA Vol. 5 No. 4 (“Out of Time Part 4,” for those who track these things by story arcs instead of volume/issue numbers). I assume this was a condition of Marvel’s settlement with Joe Simon, but I don’t know for certain. Of course it’s still significant that Kirby is now credited for his other Marvel creations, or a fair chunk of them at any rate.

@emac1790 – you’re absolutely right, I too read Ditko viewed his work as paid for.
Although he’s still unsatisfied with the glory Stan hog’s for Spidey’s creation. Ditko considers himself a co-creator on it – witness the exchange about this with Stan in Ross’ In Search of Steve Ditko (BBC documentary).
I still think Ditko should receive wider recognition from Marvel for his work on Spidey, same byline for Ditko as for Kirby would be a good start.

I’ve never understood the phrasing of the Siegel credit: “By special arrangement with…”. Why was that necessary? Siegel and Shuster had been credited as Superman’s creators for decades.

Been reading a number of similar articles but none I’ve seen point out that it was Joe Simon who made Marvel give Jack co-creator credit of Captain America in comics and movies since early 2000s. Wish Marvel and Disney would make the credits large enough to see and honor these two creators in the Captain America movies, etc…

You are my hero. I just recently doeicversd your blog (I can’t remember how… I may have been drunk) and am totally internet stalking you and read all of your back entries and am madly in love with you… i mean very impressed by your mad skills.Also. Cat’s are evil geniuses. My cat hated everyone but me (and sometimes also me) and when you angered her, she would wait patiently near something you loved for you to enter the room… then she would pee on it. And stare you down. Thanks for being awesome.

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