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		<title>Grumpy Old Fan &#124; Successor stories</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bondurant</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don’t ask me how I remember this, but it was just about twenty years ago that the first previews of Dan Jurgens’ Justice League began appearing. After five years, the “bwah-ha-ha” era was winding down, and Keith Giffen and J.M. DeMatteis were leaving Justice League America. Giffen was also stepping away from plots and breakdowns [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_99474" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 202px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-99474" href="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/grumpy-old-fan-successor-stories/jlamerica_061/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-99474" src="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/jlamerica_061-192x300.jpg" alt="" width="192" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Justice League America #61</p></div>
<p>Don’t ask me how I remember this, but it was just about twenty years ago that the first previews of Dan Jurgens’ Justice League began appearing.  After five years, the “bwah-ha-ha” era was winding down, and Keith Giffen and J.M. DeMatteis were leaving <em>Justice League America</em>.  Giffen was also stepping away from plots and breakdowns for <em>Justice League Europe</em>, with <em>JLE</em>’s scripter Gerard Jones taking over as the book’s only writer; and Brian Augustyn replaced Andy Helfer as both books’ editor.</p>
<p>With a number of the New 52 titles changing creative teams before they’re even a year old, it’s too early to start talking about any long-lived, let alone definitive, runs on a particular book.  Still, DC clearly hopes these books will be around for a while, even without the folks who launched ‘em.  It got me thinking about past changes of the guard, and how they have followed some well-established interpretations.</p>
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<p><span id="more-99471"></span>Let’s begin with the Jurgens League, which was a big part of a wider effort to establish the Justice League as a mini-franchise.  In the spring of 1992, the League family included <em>JLA</em> and <em>JLE</em>, as well as the oversized anthology <em>Justice League Quarterly</em>.  “Breakdowns,” an epic crossover between the two monthly books, left the two teams pretty much disbanded, only to reunite (with some newer, higher-profile members) in the one-shot <em>Justice League Spectacular</em>.  Although the overall effect made  <em>JLA</em> and <em>JLE</em> less wacky, the changes also tried to give the books more of a high-adventure feel, deliberately trying to evoke the Silver Age team.  The covers of <em>JLA</em> #61 and <em>JLE</em> #37 each paid homage to early Justice League of America moments, with <em>JLA</em>’s copying <em>Justice League of America</em> #1 and <em>JLE</em>’s parodying the original team’s origin (from <em>JLofA</em> #9).</p>
<div id="attachment_99475" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 207px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-99475" href="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/grumpy-old-fan-successor-stories/jleurope_v1_037/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-99475" src="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/jleurope_v1_037-197x300.jpg" alt="" width="197" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Justice League Europe #37</p></div>
<p>In hindsight, it was part of a cycle which should be familiar to longtime Justice League fans.  As a response to the “Detroit League’s” lineup of lesser-knowns, Giffen, DeMatteis, and penciller Kevin Maguire had built <em>Justice League International</em> around veterans from the original team (Batman, Black Canary, Martian Manhunter), familiar characters with no previous League affiliation (Mr. Miracle, Dr. Fate, Captain Marvel), and those newer to the spotlight (Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Captain Atom, Guy Gardner, Dr. Light).  For years the JLI was successful without the likes of Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or Hal Jordan, mostly because it poked fun at the kind of omnipotent super-team to which they would belong.  However, when Jurgens and Jones (and <em>JLE</em>’s new artist Ron Randall) took over, the two Leagues expanded to accommodate exactly those characters.  Superman joined Beetle, Booster, Guy, Fire, and Ice in Justice League America, while Power Girl, Flash, Crimson Fox, and Elongated Man welcomed Hal, Aquaman, (eventually) Wonder Woman, and (for the first arc) Batman into Justice League Europe.</p>
<p>Strange as it may sound, this was a big deal at the time.  After a few years of post-<em>Crisis On Infinite Earths</em> creative renovations, DC was starting to rediscover the Silver Age.  Jurgens’ first villain was Xotar the Weapons Master, not seen since 1960&#8242;s <em>Brave and the Bold</em> #29, and his last big storyline involved Doctor Destiny and a twisted version of the Satellite League.  Intervening was 1992&#8242;s “Death Of Superman” storyline, and since Superman was part of the League, Doomsday got to sideline Booster and put Beetle in a coma.  There’s some metatextual hay to be made out of a Silver Age pastiche featuring self-referential post-<em>Crisis</em> characters being decimated by an early-‘90s stunt-plot built around killing one of the world’s most recognizable pop-culture figures, but in the end it was just a big mess.  Jurgens’ JLA ended up with Wonder Woman, Guy Gardner, Maxima, the Ray, Black Condor, Agent Liberty, and Bloodwynd, and Jurgens left soon thereafter.  When the JL books were reshuffled a year or so later, Gerard Jones was the new writer, and the cycle began anew.</p>
<div id="attachment_99473" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 205px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-99473" href="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/grumpy-old-fan-successor-stories/teentitans_v2_001/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-99473" src="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/teentitans_v2_001-195x300.jpg" alt="" width="195" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Teen Titans vol. 2 #1</p></div>
<p>As it happened, Jurgens also ended up taking over the Teen Titans from longtime writer Marv Wolfman.  Of course, Wolfman’s association with the Titans went back to the late ‘60s, but he’d really made his mark in 1980, in collaboration with artist George Pérez.  Wolfman stayed on <em>New (Teen) Titans</em> for some fifteen years, and by the time Nightwing put the book to bed with issue #130, there didn’t seem to be much more to do with those characters.  Accordingly, Jurgens started fresh in <em>Teen Titans</em> #1 (October 1996), with a group of super-powered youngsters sharing a common origin.  Leading the group was the Atom, stuck in the body of a 16-year-old following a temporal accident, and helping to mentor them was Mr. Jupiter, a figure from one of the original Titans’ other relaunches.  Jurgens’ Titans lasted two years, although issue #12 featured the originals in the start of a four-part storyline and Captain Marvel Jr. joined around issue #17.  The book ended with issue #24, but the original Titans reunited in 1998&#8242;s <em>JLA/Titans</em> miniseries, and one of Jurgens’ characters (Argent) joined the subsequent <em>Titans</em> title.  Argent even appeared in the seminal <em>JLA</em> storyline “Rock Of Ages,” albeit as one of the last superheroes standing after Darkseid’s global conquest.  With the Titans’ New-52 history uncertain, who knows when they might pop up; but for the most part, they made it through the past few crossovers relatively unscathed.  However, DC hasn’t tried a completely-new Titans book since then (not counting the recent all-villains <em>Titans</em>, that is), and I would say the feature is subject to the same ebb and flow of big-name characters as <em>Justice League</em> is.</p>
<p>Speaking of ex-Titans, <em>The Flash</em> vol. 2 was lucky enough to have only a handful of writers during its twenty-year run.  Mark Waid spent some six-and-a-half years writing (or co-writing with Brian Augustyn) Wally West’s adventures, most notably letting Wally come to grips with his place in the Flash legacy.  Waid also gave Wally a distinctive, matter-of-fact voice appropriate to a character who’d spent most of his life with super-speed.  Accordingly, when Geoff Johns took over <em>Flash</em>, he inherited a well-adjusted protagonist and didn’t try to fix what wasn’t broken.  Instead, Johns focused on Wally’s surroundings:  breathing life into the blue-collar, hockey-loving Keystone City; offering new perspectives via detectives Chyre and Morillo; and famously focusing on the Flash’s Rogues’ Gallery.  Johns stayed on <em>Flash</em> for five years, effectively wrapping it up in time for an <em>Infinite Crisis</em>-related relaunch.</p>
<p>So, can we draw some conclusions from these three disparate examples?  I doubt there are any hard-and-fast rules, but I do have some observations.  First, despite writing and drawing both, Dan Jurgens was asked to do two different things on <em>Justice League America</em> and <em>Teen Titans</em>.  Essentially, <em>JLA</em> picked up where Giffen and DeMatteis left it, except that a) Jurgens tried to fold it into the Superman titles and b) Jurgens wasn’t nearly as funny.  (His recent <em>Booster Gold</em> work was a lot better by comparison.)  Conversely, <em>Teen Titans</em> was supposed to be something new (if grounded in the familiar DC universe) and turned into something pretty familiar when the new stuff failed to catch on.  By contrast, the new stuff in Johns’ <em>Flash</em> was mostly new perspectives on familiar elements, like Keystone City and the Rogues.</p>
<p>We tend to forget it because Gail Simone was associated with the characters for so long, but Chuck Dixon was the original <em>Birds Of Prey</em> writer, guiding Black Canary and Oracle through various one-shots and miniseries before writing the first forty-six issues of the original ongoing series.  (Terry Moore and Gilbert Hernandez each wrote a few issues in between Dixon and Simone.)  Dixon’s <em>BOP</em> was a distaff version of his other DC work, which at the time included <em>Nightwing</em>, <em>Robin</em>, and <em>Green Arrow</em>.  It was hard-nosed, no-nonsense storytelling; and although there were some relationship issues, the series was more action-oriented.  Today, naturally, we remember Simone’s <em>BOP</em> for its characters:  Babs, Dinah, Helena, Zinda, Charlie, et al.  Again, like Johns, Simone took what Dixon left and gave it her own perspective.  (I try not to sound like Paula Abdul, but there it is.)  Simone ended up writing more issues of <em>Birds Of Prey</em> than Dixon did, and now she surely comes to mind more readily than he does.  Still, the fundamentals of the feature didn’t change all that much.</p>
<div id="attachment_99483" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 205px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-99483" href="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/grumpy-old-fan-successor-stories/drfate_1988_025/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-99483" src="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/drfate_1988_025-195x300.jpg" alt="" width="195" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Doctor Fate #25</p></div>
<p>Of course, other titles underwent more radical changes.  When J.M. DeMatteis and Shawn McManus left <em>Dr. Fate</em> after two years, writer William Messner-Loebs and artists Vince Giaranno and Peter Gross changed casts almost completely.  Stay with me, because this can get complicated:  Dr. Fate was originally Kent Nelson, bearer of a mystic helmet which housed Nabu, an omnipotent Lord of Order.  By the time DeMatteis and McManus launched their series, Nelson had died and Nabu was inhabiting his body, and Fate was a guy named Eric Strauss (magically aged to adulthood) and occasionally also Eric’s stepmother Linda.  <em>However</em>, thanks to a series of events much too complicated to be summarized, the protagonists for Moore and Gross’s run were Inza Nelson (Kent’s wife) and Kent himself, back from limbo (or someplace effectively similar), with Kent’s original body now the home to a Lord of Chaos named Shat-Ru.  Thus, different faces on comparable roles.  Both DeMatteis and Messner-Loebs used <em>Dr. Fate</em> to explore broad philosophical questions, although each writer went in a different direction.  Where DeMatteis was more concerned with larger issues of creation, destruction, and significance, Messner-Loebs had Inza transform her neighborhood for the better, literally removing evil impulses from her neighbors and behaving like a benevolent deity.  It was an engaging run, although it only lasted a little over a year before the book was cancelled.</p>
<p>J.M. DeMatteis got another crack at a nigh-omnipotent superhero when he wrote Hal Jordan as The Spectre.  Previous writer John Ostrander cast the Spectre as the embodiment of God’s wrath, but DeMatteis gave him a mission of redemption.  DeMatteis’ <em>Spectre</em> series (drawn first by Ryan Sook and then by Norm Breyfogle) lasted a little over two years, and with Hal’s subsequent return as Green Lantern, may end up merely as a forgotten footnote to his backstory.</p>
<p>And speaking of footnotes, I felt compelled to hunt down every issue of <em>Who’s Who in the Legion of Super-Heroes</em> just to understand the references in early issues of the “Five-Years Later” version.  Following Paul Levitz’s departure, writers Tom and Mary Bierbaum and artist/plotter Keith Giffen relaunched <em>Legion of Super-Heroes</em> in the fall of 1989, but set it in a universe five years removed from the glittering utopia Legion readers had come to love.  (Not being a regular Legion reader, I thought this would be a good jumping-on point, but I ended up jumping into a fast-moving stream without a float.)  Ironically, while this version of the Legion was grounded firmly in existing continuity, a big chunk of that continuity had been rewritten to accommodate post-<em>Crisis</em> changes to Superman.  Even so, the 5YL Legion survived for five years (appropriately enough), until <em>Zero Hour</em> provided the opportunity for a more complete housecleaning.</p>
<div id="attachment_99476" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 205px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-99476" href="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/grumpy-old-fan-successor-stories/firestorm_v2_0056/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-99476" src="http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/firestorm_v2_0056-195x300.jpg" alt="" width="195" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Firestorm #56, John Ostrander&#039;s first issue</p></div>
<p>Finally, there’s <em>Firestorm</em>, co-created by Gerry Conway in the mid-‘70s and guided largely by Conway for the next ten years.  Firestorm, the fusion of student Ronnie Raymond and scientist Martin Stein, first had his own book, which lasted five issues before being cancelled.  Because Conway also wrote <em>Justice League of America</em>, he soon brought Firestorm into the League and wrote the character’s contemporaneous backup series in <em>Flash</em>.  Not surprisingly, when the ongoing <em>Fury Of Firestorm</em> debuted in 1982, Conway wrote its first fifty-three issues.  Essentially, Firestorm was Conway’s baby until John Ostrander came along &#8212; and one of the first things Ostrander did was give Martin Stein cancer.  That kicked off a whole slew of twists and turns and brought in a raft of new characters.  It took both Ronnie and the Professor out of the picture for long stretches, leaving behind an affectless Firestorm who struggled to find his proper function.  In fact, the Ostrander run delved deep into the mechanics of the character, laying the groundwork for how he’s perceived today.  Ostrander’s <em>Firestorm</em> (drawn by Joe Brozowski, then Tom Grindberg, then Tom Mandrake) was a sweeping saga of hope, survival, and ultimately, transcendence, which took the character from relatively-mundane superheroics to <em>Swamp Thing</em>-style levels of cosmic responsibility.  <em>Firestorm</em> was cancelled with issue #100, so Ostrander was on the book a little less than four years, but that was more than enough time to alter the character irrevocably.  (It also made the character somewhat unrecognizable, but subsequent appearances got around that.)  The Jason Rusch <em>Firestorm</em> revamp built on many of these ideas, and the current <em>Fury Of Firestorms</em> seems to be playing with them as well.</p>
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<p>Naturally, all of these examples would be more appropriate if we were still playing by all the old rules.  (It feels more than a little strange to talk about “the old days” and mean “August,” but that’s about where the New-52 has left us.)  There aren’t too many New-52 books with long-established creative teams.  Geoff Johns has been writing <em>Green Lantern</em> for about seven years now, Paul Levitz has been back with the Legion for a while, and despite the book’s considerable hiatus I guess you could say there’s only been one set of writers on <em>Resurrection Man</em>.  For all intents and purposes, we’re probably in the post-Grant Morrison era of Bat-books as well.</p>
<p>Otherwise, though, I don’t feel comfortable pointing to any given New-52 book and predicting a lengthy tenure for its current creative team.  That said, I don’t think any of the Bat-writers are going anywhere, Morrison probably has a good bit to say about Superman in <em>Action Comics</em>, and Scott Snyder and Jeff Lemire seem settled-in for the long haul on <em>Swamp Thing</em> and <em>Animal Man</em>.  I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the New-52 titles got a good couple of years out of their current creative teams &#8212; but I wouldn’t be surprised either if the superhero line looked significantly different two years from now.  Maybe it’s because we’re only on the first week of Month 4, but the whole thing has a weird sense of impermanence, like it’s just a more normal version of <em>Flashpoint</em>’s altered reality.</p>
<p>Maybe that’s by design:  for good or ill, these folks are telling the stories they want to tell, and when they’re done, they’re done &#8212; whether that takes six months, one year, or five years.  That’s not a bad way to go.  It’s basically what happened with <em>Sandman</em>, <em>Hitman</em>, and <em>Starman</em>, each of which is remembered for its singular vision.</p>
<p>However, not every book has that luxury.  I wouldn’t want to be the writer following Geoff Johns on <em>Green Lantern</em>.  I suppose the examples above are meant for that person, and I guess one of the big takeaways has to do with a book’s fundamentals.  If those fundamentals are maintained, and you can offer readers some new insights into familiar elements, you’re probably set for a decent run.  That sounds pretty basic, but these days, there’s more freedom to redefine those fundamentals and/or play with readers’ expectations &#8212; and that’s assuming the reader <em>has</em> some expectations.  In that respect, Dan Jurgens had it easy on <em>JLA</em>:  just add Superman to Giffen and DeMatteis’ comedic cast, and let the reactions write themselves.</p>
<p>Today, though, DC is presenting the New 52 largely on its own merits.  Readers may have expectations about <em>Justice League</em>, <em>Superman</em>, or <em>Batman</em>, but they’re not necessarily comparing Duane Swierczynski’s work on <em>Birds Of Prey</em> to Gail Simone’s.  Indeed, the New-52 isn’t old enough to encourage such comparisons.  Rather, if I’m being charitable, the superhero line is still finding itself in these early months, and DC is figuring out what kinds of readers its New-52 books are attracting.  We’ll see in a few years whether they’ve settled down with particular creative teams, and then we can apply these examples more accurately.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comics &#124; A July house fire in Minneapolis that killed homeowner Gary Dahlberg spared his meticulously preserved comic-book collection, which experts say could be worth $1 million. The comics, which includes first issues of The Amazing Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and Daredevil, will be sold at auction on May 5 by Heritage Auction Galleries, with the [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Comics</strong> | A July house fire in Minneapolis that killed homeowner Gary Dahlberg spared his meticulously preserved comic-book collection, which experts say could be worth $1 million. The comics, which includes first issues of <em>The Amazing Spider-Man</em>, <em>Fantastic Four</em> and <em>Daredevil</em>, will be sold at auction on May 5 by Heritage Auction Galleries, with the money going to Dahlberg&#8217;s estate. &#8220;To go for the really big money they have to be really perfect, and that what these are,&#8221; says Barry Sandoval of Heritage Auction Galleries. &#8220;The comics look like they just rolled off the printing press and nobody&#8217;s ever touched them.&#8221; [<a href="http://kstp.com/article/stories/s2010505.shtml" target="_blank">KSTP TV</a>, with video]</p>
<p><strong>Crime</strong> | A 17-year-old boy accused of attempting to rob Fun 4 All Comics &amp; Games in Ypsilanti, Mich., <a href="http://www.annarbor.com/news/ypsilanti/augusta-township-teen-accused-of-attempted-armed-robbery-and-then-said-he-was-joking-arrested/" target="_blank">on Monday</a> has been arraigned on charges of assault with attempt to rob while armed and attempted larceny. Police say the teen, wearing a blond wig, bandanna and dark glasses, gave an employee a list of merchandise &#8212; &#8220;most, if not all, of it <em>Yu-Gi-Oh</em>! cards&#8221; &#8212; then opened his coat to reveal what <em>appeared</em> to be an improvised explosive device. The boy allegedly threatened to detonate the bomb if he wasn&#8217;t given the merchandise. When the employee yelled for the owner to call police, then teen said he was only joking, then bought some inexpensive items and left the store. The sheriff&#8217;s department later arrested the teen in his car in a Burger King parking lot. The Michigan State Police bomb squad responded, and determined the potential explosive device was inert. [<a href="http://www.annarbor.com/news/comic-book-store-employees-recall-attempted-armed-robbery/" target="_blank">AnnArbor.com</a>]</p>
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<p><strong>Comic strips</strong> | Two years after <a href="../2009/02/food-or-comics-a-roundup-for-money-related-news/" target="_blank"><em>Washington City Paper</em> eliminated its syndicated comics</a> amid massive budget cuts at its parent company, the alternative weekly  is bringing back its comics page. The new lineup, debuting in this  week&#8217;s issue, includes Derf&#8217;s <em>The City</em>, Shawn Belschwender&#8217;s <em>Clowntime</em>, Michael Kupperman&#8217;s <em>Up All Night</em> and David Malki&#8217;s <em>Wondermark</em>. [<a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/wcp-brings-back-the-funnies_b33243" target="_blank">FishbowlDC</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Creators</strong> | Alex Carr interviews <a href="http://www.omnivoracious.com/2011/03/emerald-city-comcon-2011-interview-with-guy-davis.html" target="_blank">Guy Davis</a>, <a href="http://www.omnivoracious.com/2011/03/emerald-city-comicon-2011-interview-with-dave-stewart.html" target="_blank">Dave Stewart</a> and <a href="http://www.omnivoracious.com/2011/03/emerald-city-comicon-2011-interview-with-john-arcudi.html" target="_blank">John Arcudi</a> during at last weekend&#8217;s Emerald City Comicon. [<a href="http://www.omnivoracious.com" target="_blank">Omnivoracious</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Creators</strong> | Kurt Busiek, Austin Grossman, Gerard Jones, Sean McKeever and Gail Simone offer advice on &#8220;how to create your own original superhero from scratch.&#8221; [<a href="http://io9.com/#!5771870" target="_blank">io9.com</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Creators</strong> | Howard Buck reports on a recent visit to Washington State University Vancouver by Josh Neufeld, creator of <em>A.D.: New Orleans After the Deluge</em>. [<a href="http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/mar/09/WSUV-Hurricane-Katrina-graphic-novel-Neufeld/" target="_blank">The Columbian</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Creators</strong> | Collaborators Molly Crabapple and John Leavitt discuss their “<em>Blade Runner</em> meets <em>Dangerous Liaisons</em>.” clockwork murder mystery <em>The Puppet Makers</em>. [<a href="http://www.guerrillageek.com/2011/03/interview-crabapple-leavitt-of-puppet-makers/" target="_blank">Guerrilla Geek</a>]</p>
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<p><strong>Creators</strong> | Noah Van Sciver talks about <em>Blammo</em>, <em>Four Questions</em> and his upcoming graphic novel about Abraham Lincoln&#8217;s life in Springfield: &#8220;<em>Blammo</em> drew me to it. I was doing a short story on his duel with  James Shields. As I researched it, I became more interested in Abraham  Lincoln in his time before the Civil War. He’s my favorite president—he  just seems like a cool guy. There’s not a lot out of there about Abraham  Lincoln at that point in his life. I was interested in him because of  his depression, and also because he came from nothing. I feel a kinship  to people who come from nothing, because I come from a very large, very  poor Mormon family. I’m trying to do that in comics — come from nothing  and achieve something, which I guess is stupid, but it’s what I’ve got.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.avclub.com/denver/articles/noah-van-sciver,52989/" target="_blank">The A.V. Club</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Creators </strong>| The Center for Cartoon Studies has launched a blog dedicated to its visiting artists. [<a href="http://www.cartoonstudies.org/visitingartist/" target="_blank">CCS Visiting Artist Blog</a>, via <a href="http://www.comicsreporter.com/" target="_blank">The Comics Reporter</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Comics</strong> | Matt Wilson counts down &#8220;10 Major Comics Events that Actually Mattered.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/03/10_major_comics_events_that_actually_mattered.php" target="_blank">Topless Robot</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Comics</strong> | Jason Serafino looks at &#8220;The 10 Lamest Batman Villains of All Time!&#8221; [<a href="http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/03/the-10-lamest-batman-villains/" target="_blank">Complex</a>]</p>
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		<title>Stunning sagas, alternate realities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bondurant</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marvel tends to revisit its past with a specificity that DC doesn&#8217;t duplicate. In projects like World&#8217;s Greatest Comic Magazine!, What If?, the current X-Men Forever, and (apparently) the upcoming Clone Saga miniseries, Marvel not only spins new stories out of particular points in continuity, it attempts to give particular creative teams the second chances [...]]]></description>
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<p>Marvel tends to revisit its past with a specificity that DC doesn&#8217;t duplicate.  In projects like <em>World&#8217;s Greatest Comic Magazine!</em>, <em>What If?</em>, the current <em>X-Men Forever</em>, and (apparently) the upcoming <em>Clone Saga</em> miniseries, Marvel not only spins new stories out of particular points in continuity, it attempts to give particular creative teams the second chances at closure which the fates denied them.  Of course, DC does quite a bit of looking back itself, but most of the time it&#8217;s not facilitating such second chances.  Still, there are certain points in DC&#8217;s publishing history which seem to ask for their own &#8220;what if&#8221; moments; so I&#8217;m going to talk about a few of those today.</p>
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<strong>1. </strong><em><strong>What if Jason Todd had &#8220;won&#8221; the phone poll?</strong></em></p>
<p>Early in 1987, DC followed &#8220;Batman:  Year One&#8221; (issues #404-07) with two projects:  &#8220;Year Two&#8221; in <em>Detective Comics</em>, and &#8220;Did Robin Die Tonight?&#8221; in <em>Batman</em> #s 408-09.  The former has been largely ignored, but the latter certainly wasn&#8217;t.  Indeed, it might have been the beginning of the end for the character it was meant to rehabilitate.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know the background, here&#8217;s the short version.  In 1983, Jason &#8220;Robin II&#8221; Todd was introduced as the son of murdered circus acrobats, just like his predecessor Dick Grayson.  The similarities were intentional, because Jason was supposed to roll back the clock on Robin &#8212; to put the &#8220;boy&#8221; back in &#8220;Boy Wonder,&#8221; as it were, since Dick was already a college dropout.  Regardless, after <em>The Dark Knight Returns</em> foretold his untimely death, and after &#8220;Year One&#8221; gave Batman a new coat of grit, Jason&#8217;s retro origin and vanilla disposition needed to keep up.  Thus, <em>Batman</em> #408 (cover-dated June 1987; written by Max Allan Collins and penciled by Chris Warner) famously recast Jason as a street urchin who Batman caught trying to steal the Batmobile&#8217;s hubcaps.  When writer Jim Starlin came aboard in issue #414 (December 1987), Jason acquired a certain antisocial attitude which apparently wasn&#8217;t that endearing.  Unsure about what to do with the character, editor Denny O&#8217;Neil chose to let his readers decide Jason&#8217;s fate via a telephone poll.  Some 20,000 readers voted, and the &#8220;kill him&#8221; choice won by 28 votes.</p>
<p>The rest is history:  starting with &#8220;Year Three&#8221; in issue #436, writer Marv Wolfman set in motion the introduction of Robin III, Timothy Drake.  Tim was pretty popular, headlining three miniseries (1990, 1991, and 1992), a feature in the <em>Showcase</em> &#8217;93 anthology, and an Annual (a &#8220;Bloodlines&#8221; tie-in, but still), before receiving his own series in 1993.  Although Tim&#8217;s no longer Robin, thanks to the new <em>Red Robin</em> series he&#8217;s still a headliner.</p>
<p>Without Jason&#8217;s death, though, none of that would have happened.  A Jason who&#8217;d survived the Joker&#8217;s bludgeoning would have learned some valuable lessons, and might have been more palatable to the Bat-books&#8217; readers.  However, in the long run it might not have made much of a ripple, considering that Jason would merely have lost the sneer which Starlin had given him.  Maybe Jason would have gotten a new costume made of tougher material, not unlike Tim&#8217;s original long-pantsed duds, but the big changes probably wouldn&#8217;t have gone much further.  In fact, without Jason&#8217;s death, the Bat-team might have been more reluctant to replace Bruce Wayne in &#8220;Knightfall&#8221; &#8212; and since Tim&#8217;s first series was a &#8220;Knightfall&#8221; spinoff, the odds of Jason getting his own book would have decreased accordingly.  Would a rehabilitated Jason have received the attention that Tim did?</p>
<p>Well … probably not.  Judging by the relative indifference which greeted <em>Adventures Of Superman</em> #500 and <em>Captain America</em> #600, &#8220;returns&#8221; don&#8217;t seem to be as popular as introductions or deaths.  Remember, not only was Tim Drake the <em>new</em> Robin, his debut as Batman&#8217;s full-time sidekick was teased for over a year while he got trained.  Jason would have been back in action in a lot less time, and perhaps with less fanfare.</p>
<p>That in turn raises the question of whether a less-popular Jason/Robin would have affected the creation of other teenaged characters like Superboy, Impulse, and Wonder Girl II.  I think those characters would have come along anyway, but their chemistry with Jason would have been different.  For one thing, I suspect he&#8217;d be a few years older than any of them.</p>
<p>Actually, now I&#8217;m tempted to take back a bit of what I said earlier about &#8220;Knightfall.&#8221;  In the wake of &#8220;The Death Of Superman,&#8221; I still can&#8217;t see DC turning down any of that filthy &#8217;90s event-storyline cash.  However, instead of Bruce&#8217;s back being broken, I wonder if DC wouldn&#8217;t have taken the opportunity to kill Jason at that point.  A distraught Bruce would still leave Gotham in the hands of a replacement Batman, but in his lonely travels around the world perhaps he&#8217;d come across a new protégé, eager to learn and ripe for his own ongoing title….</p>
<p><strong>2. </strong><em><strong>What if Wally West hadn&#8217;t become the Flash?</strong></em></p>
<p>According to the <em>Crisis On Infinite Earths Compendium</em> (the Absolute edition&#8217;s companion volume), <em>Flash</em> writer Cary Bates was told in May 1984 that the title would be cancelled with the next summer&#8217;s issue #350.  Perhaps in recognition of his years writing Barry Allen, Bates was &#8220;given a chance to use the name and start all over again&#8221; (p. 9).  At that point Wally &#8220;Kid Flash&#8221; West was effectively retired, thanks to the great pain which then went with using his super-speed.  This left Barry with no obvious successor, and for a little while it looked like the next Flash would be a new character.</p>
<p>Regardless, a July 3, 1984, memo mentioned &#8220;cur[ing] Wally West [so that] he could possibly become the new, revised Flash&#8221; (p. 16).  As <em>Crisis</em> penciller George Perez explained in <em>Amazing Heroes</em> #91 (March 15, 1986), making Wally the Flash &#8220;became almost an 11th hour decision after DC couldn&#8217;t quite come up with an idea for a new Flash.  No one could think of anything without feeling like they were somehow insulting the name by giving it to a concept that had nothing to do with Barry Allen&#8221; (p. 50).  Besides, Perez and <em>Crisis</em> writer Marv Wolfman had given Wally his affliction in the pages of <em>New Teen Titans</em>, so they didn&#8217;t have any problems taking it away.</p>
<p>While affection for Barry Allen&#8217;s legacy would have been understandable among the DC professionals who had both grown up with and worked on the character, it&#8217;s worth pointing out that Barry himself had no real connection with his predecessor beyond being a fan of Jay Garrick&#8217;s comic-book adventures.  Thus, there was a precedent for the third Flash being someone unconnected to Barry.  (However, according to Perez, such a Flash probably wouldn&#8217;t have been a woman, considering that <em>Crisis</em> was already introducing female versions of Dr. Light and Wildcat.)</p>
<p>If &#8212; and this is probably a bigger &#8220;if&#8221; than any of the other examples in this post &#8212; DC had gone with a heretofore-unknown Flash III, I think it would have had a huge effect on the company&#8217;s concept of superhero &#8220;families&#8221; and &#8220;legacies.&#8221;  Wally was the standard-bearer for that sort of thing, at least until Jack &#8220;Starman&#8221; Knight came along.  Additionally, Wally&#8217;s need to emulate Barry let his writers indulge whatever love they had for the Silver Age.  Bill Messner-Loebs made the Rogues&#8217; Gallery a bunch of avuncular goofballs, and Mark Waid used Barry&#8217;s reputation to inspire Wally to new heights.  In fact, Waid&#8217;s work on <em>The Flash</em> is said to have inspired Grant Morrison&#8217;s <em>JLA</em>, so there&#8217;s another combination which might not have come to pass without Wally in the red suit.  Overall, the Wally-to-Barry transition is widely regarded today as an excellent example of an older character given a dignified exit and his successor growing organically into the role.</p>
<p>At the time, though, the fans were not so happy; and fans of Barry were particularly upset at their hero&#8217;s death.  (I specifically remember one angry letter to <em>Amazing Heroes</em> saying that Wally wasn&#8217;t fit to fill Barry&#8217;s boots.)  If DC had gone with someone other than Wally West, the publisher might have gotten a preview of the spleens which would be vented upon them by Hal Jordan partisans in 1994.  Fortunately, future Big Events would provide a few opportunities to switch out Flashes.  Wally could have been &#8220;promoted&#8221; either in 1994&#8242;s <em>Zero Hour</em> or as a result of 2005&#8242;s <em>Infinite Crisis</em>.  Failing that, surely Dan DiDio would have wanted to bring Barry back at some point….</p>
<p><strong>3.  <em>What if Robert Loren Fleming and Trevor Von Eeden had finished </em>Thriller<em>?</em></strong></p>
<p>At the end of his interview in the new <em>Comics Journal</em> (#298), artist Trevor von Eeden says he&#8217;s open to the idea of revisiting <em>Thriller</em>, the 1983-84 cult-favorite series which showcased von Eeden&#8217;s unique storytelling style.  Von Eeden only penciled eight of the series&#8217; twelve issues, and series creator Robert Loren Fleming only wrote the first seven.  This resulted in a steep drop-off in quality.  In the words of <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/comics/trinitybuilding/main.html" target="_blank"><em>Thriller</em> uber-fan David Allen Jones</a>, the replacement creative team of Bill Dubay and Alex Nino &#8220;could never recapture the spark that the original creators had and the book limped to the finish line, mercifully killed.&#8221;  Accordingly, I consider <em>Thriller</em> &#8220;unfinished,&#8221; and have always wondered what Fleming and von Eeden would have done with the title had circumstances not forced them off.</p>
<p>Since <em>Thriller</em> was one of the least conventional comics DC has published, it would be futile of me to predict any narrative specifics.  Instead, I think that if Fleming and von Eeden had finished at least twelve issues, DC might be more amenable to collecting them, which in turn could have built on the book&#8217;s existing fanbase.  The situation reminds me of the post-Jack Kirby Fourth World, which DC revisited in the mid-1970s with new creative teams, and which &#8212; despite big names like Gerry Conway and Don Newton on <em>Return of the New Gods</em> and Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers on <em>Mister Miracle</em> &#8212; Fourth World fans <a href="http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/atminor.html#Earth-17i" target="_blank">largely ignore</a>.</p>
<p>Eventually, in the last issue of a miniseries reprinting the original <em>New Gods</em>, and in the follow-up <em>Hunger Dogs</em> graphic novel, Kirby produced his own conclusion to the saga.  It&#8217;s not too late for DC to do something similar with <em>Thriller</em>, and I bet it&#8217;d make a dandy paperback when all is said and done.</p>
<p><strong>4.  <em>What if DC had used Gerard Jones&#8217; &#8220;Emerald Twilight?&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Attentive solicitation readers of the mid-1990s surely noticed that DC&#8217;s advance word on <em>Green Lantern</em> #48 didn&#8217;t quite match up with what was eventually published.  The <a href="http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/curtain/gl48-50.php" target="_blank">original solicitations for issues #48 and #49</a> promised dueling groups of Guardians, with the winners taking away the power rings&#8217; weaknesses and appointing Sinestro the new head Green Lantern.  As former <em>GL</em> writer Gerard Jones put it in the 1997 edition of <em>The Comic Book Heroes</em> (p. 358), the differences arose because his plot wasn&#8217;t &#8220;shocking enough.&#8221;  To retool &#8220;Emerald Twilight,&#8221; Paul Levitz had &#8220;assigned [Denny] O&#8217;Neil, [Archie] Goodwin, and [Mike] Carlin to plot a new direction in one night.&#8221;  As scripted by Ron Marz, this became the apocalyptic turning point which Green Lantern fans know so well.</p>
<p>The background for Jones&#8217; &#8220;Emerald Twilight&#8221; goes back four years, to the beginning of <em>GL</em> volume 3.  The first arc (issues #1-8) of this <em>Green Lantern</em> series picked up at a point where there was no Green Lantern Corps, the Guardians had gone off into another dimension to make super-babies with their female counterparts the Zamarons, and there were only four working power rings (Hal Jordan&#8217;s, John Stewart&#8217;s, Guy Gardner&#8217;s, and Ch&#8217;p the squirrel&#8217;s).  By the end of that first arc, the Guardians had returned, but the one called &#8220;Old-Timer&#8221; (who had relinquished his immortality in the early &#8217;70s, as a consequence of joining Hal and Green Arrow for their road trip) had gone insane.  During the course of his <em>GL</em> run, Jones hinted that the other Guardians might not be entirely trustworthy either.</p>
<p>Appropriately enough, <a href="http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/curtain/gl-et.php" target="_blank">Jones&#8217; original &#8220;Emerald Twilight&#8221; plot</a> &#8212; which would have taken seven issues, #s 48-54 &#8212; builds on these hints, by introducing a second group of Guardians.  The newcomers claim they&#8217;re the real deals, and Hal&#8217;s bosses are fakes who are guiding the universe into chaos.  The Old Guardians counter that the new ones are really despots who will use the Green Lantern Corps to enforce strict, tyrannical order.  However, the &#8220;new Guardians&#8221; (not to be confused with the short-lived New Guardians group) are also the parents of the Zamarons&#8217; super-babies, who will supposedly be powerful enough to rule the universe.  Therefore, the new Guardians&#8217; claims look pretty solid, and most of the GL Corps sides with them.  Nevertheless, Hal&#8217;s instincts and experiences tell him to trust the Guardians he knows, although it will alienate him from the Corps.  This decision is especially painful because, thanks to the destruction of Coast City and his (latest) breakup with Carol Ferris, Hal&#8217;s decided to focus exclusively on being a Green Lantern, and the Corps is all he has left.</p>
<p>As a result (Jones explains),</p>
<blockquote><p>Hal […] enters the [Central Power] battery to increase his power, fights the Corps and takes the Old Guardians into hiding as he seeks a way to convince his fellow GLs or beat the New Guardians. The stakes for Hal are high: if he&#8217;s RIGHT about the New Guardians, but they WIN, then the universe is doomed. If he&#8217;s WRONG in his gut-feeling and HE wins, then HE&#8217;S doomed the universe. If he&#8217;s WRONG and he LOSES, then the universe is okay but Hal is ostracized from the only group that means anything to him. The pressure is on him not only to win, but to be damn sure he&#8217;s right.</p></blockquote>
<p>As Hal gathers his own army (other Earth superheroes, a splinter group of GLs led by Arisia, and Star Sapphire), the new Guardians reinstate Sinestro as leader of the GL Corps.  Naturally, Sinestro&#8217;s program of &#8220;purifying&#8221; the universe includes things like destroying the Khund homeworld.  Even so, the bulk of the Corps are either &#8220;wowed or cowed&#8221; (Jones&#8217; phrase) by Sinestro&#8217;s leadership.  Furthermore, the real power behind the New Guardians turns out to be Entropy (formerly Krona).  If all that weren&#8217;t enough, Hal learns that the real Guardians arranged his father&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>And yet, Hal soldiers on, protecting the Guardians regardless of what they did to him.  Entropy is beaten back, Sinestro is defeated, the Zamarons&#8217; children wind up on the side of good, and the Corps is reunified.  Hal, though, is tired of being manipulated by the Guardians, and quits the Corps.  Using the powers he gained after going into the Central Battery, he strikes off on his own as &#8220;The Protector.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly, the eventual &#8220;Emerald Twilight&#8221; took quite a few beats from Jones&#8217; original.  Both feature Hal fighting fellow Lanterns (including Kilowog), both involve Sinestro, and both have Hal assuming a new identity after entering the Central Power Battery.  However, just as clear are the differences in tone and effect.  Jones&#8217; &#8220;ET&#8221; only changed Hal, and left the Guardians and Green Lantern Corps intact.  Ironically, <a href="http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?threadid=48831" target="_blank">from what he told Newsarama</a>, his goals weren&#8217;t that different from eventual GL revamper Geoff Johns:*</p>
<blockquote><p>… [M]y main goal was to restore Hal Jordan to glory. It didn&#8217;t exactly turn out that way. I was a huge fan of the John Broome-Gil Kane Green Lanterns of the &#8217;60s and specifically a fan of Hal Jordan as they had conceived him, very sure of himself, even a little<br />
arrogant, supremely competent, and I made say [sic] &#8216;simply heroic.&#8217; I felt that character had [been] weighed down horribly with self-doubt and depressiveness and too many weird character turns, and the series as a whole had been choked by a too-complicated train-load of continuity that it always seemed to be dragging along on its back. I wanted to do a &#8217;90s comic, with ongoing plots and continuity development, but with the cleanness and verve of those old Green Lanterns, and a more mature but equally admirable Hal Jordan in the center of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Because Jones also mentions bringing in a &#8220;new, younger GL,&#8221; a la Kyle Rayner, it&#8217;s hard to say whether he would eventually have returned Hal to the GL Corps.  Since this was an early-&#8217;90s &#8220;replacement hero&#8221; storyline, and since the Corps itself would have made it easy for Hal and his replacement to coexist, it seems like that probably would have happened at some point.  Accordingly, I have to think that DC could have saved itself (and the potential members of H.E.A.T.) a lot of grief by going with Jones&#8217; original plot.  Depending on the timing of Hal&#8217;s return to the Corps, the chemistry of Grant Morrison&#8217;s <em>JLA</em> might have been affected, but beyond that the ripple effects are harder to calculate.</p>
<p>One thing seems clear, however:  without the &#8220;Emerald Twilight&#8221; readers saw, there would have been no need to rehabilitate Hal Jordan, and no need to restore the Green Lantern Corps.  That would mean no <em>Green Lantern:  Rebirth</em>, and from there the dominoes start to fall.  As I remember, Jones considered the power rings&#8217; weakness to yellow to be something the Guardians put in on a whim, and not an omnipotent creature which was the manifestation of fear.  Thus, if there is no room in the GL mythology for avatars like Parallax and Ion, the whole &#8220;War of Light&#8221; concept is undermined … and suddenly DC has no Big Event for the back half of 2009.</p>
<p>Perhaps more significantly, Jones&#8217; Green Lantern Corps was still basically the Corps of the Silver Age.  Because the revised &#8220;Emerald Twilight&#8221; destroyed it and all but one of the Guardians, Geoff Johns had more freedom to recreate the Corps as he saw fit, giving the group a more distinct command structure and explaining the power rings more metaphysically.  Although Hal had been around for thirty-five years before he turned bad, one could argue that he couldn&#8217;t sustain a title for more than about ten years at a time.  <em>Green Lantern</em> vol. 2 lasted eighty-nine issues (including reprint issues) before being cancelled.  When the book returned in the mid-1970s, it lasted about ten years (to issue #200) before being retooled into <em>Green Lantern Corps</em>.  That version lasted twenty-four issues and gave way to Hal&#8217;s feature in <em>Action Comics Weekly</em>.  Hal then went from <em>ACW</em> to <em>GL</em> volume 3, and there became Parallax in issue #50.  Kyle then took over the title for the next ten years, until the book was cancelled to make room for <em>GL:  Rebirth</em> and Hal&#8217;s current title.</p>
<p>Now, ten years is nothing at which to sneeze (from 1986-96, it seemed like the Justice League was being retooled every <em>two</em> years), but I have to wonder whether a kinder, gentler &#8220;Emerald Twilight,&#8221; with the status quo largely still in place, would have created enough interest in <em>Green Lantern</em> to sustain it without subsequent revitalizations.  In other words, if Hal had returned to the Corps, say around issue #75, what would <em>GL</em>&#8216;s handlers have done to shake things up?  Would they have even felt the need to do anything?  I suppose that, in one best-case scenario, <em>Green Lantern</em> would have been the same kind of Silver-Age-friendly book as Waid&#8217;s <em>Flash</em>, and it would have been popular enough on its own merits … but I am probably too cynical to see that happening.  Some temptations are just too strong.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Obviously these are not the only examples of creative teams needing closure.**  However, each presented an opportunity to make radical (and perhaps arbitrary) changes to the existing status quo.  Foregoing these changes therefore looks like the less risky choice, and I don&#8217;t think corporate-superhero-comics overlords want to be remembered as risk-avoidant (not in this sense, at least).  Still, Wally West&#8217;s <em>Flash</em> lasted some twenty years, with Tim Drake&#8217;s <em>Robin</em> lasting sixteen and Kyle Rayner having <em>Green Lantern</em> to himself for ten.  Indeed, those runs were themselves cut short to accommodate radical status-quo changes  (even if the changes to <em>Flash</em> and <em>GL</em> were basically rollbacks).  I suppose the most radical reinventions look routine, and the most conventional alternatives look risky, after enough time.</p>
<p>+++++++++</p>
<p>* [And they both have the same initials, just like Alan Scott and Abin Sur.  Did I just blow your mind…?]</p>
<p>** [For instance, there's the news that Wolfman and Perez might actually finish the <em>Games</em> graphic novel.]</p>
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